الخارجية السورية تؤكد ان دمشق ستشارك بوفد رسمي في جنيف 2

Bachar al assad is a stupid criminal. Wether or not he wins today, he will join the dustbin of history with Hitler and Staline.

Bachar CREATED fath el islam tp destabilize lebanon. He played with fundamentalists until his stupid giraffe fingers got burned.

Bachar systematically killed every patriotic leader in lebanon. Leaving us thieves such as nabih berri and adnane mansour to rule us.

-tony montana you belong in a pile of American genocidal BS :D

Oh you really think that will happen anytime soon? Isn't that what you westernes said 3 years ago? Oops i forgot that it never happened and never will ;)

I know that it didn't happen to your liking tony, btw the chemical weapons was a good move, because Assad doesn't need them he got much better and more advanced weaponry now from Russia. Btw if Russia gave the greenlight USA would have bombed, but Russia knocked on the table, and then your fellow americans backed off for good :) Scared of the big Russian bear are we?

Lol ok, so we M8ers can't say you are pro Wahabi, but you can say we are filthy iranian thugs. I think you guys are a little double standard.

lol not just you my dear american, we all know what your intentions is :)

Southern, from 1992 to 2005, the hariri years, KSA was the strongest party in lebanon. Did you see a jihadist project? I didnt. All I saw from Saudi was tourists, spending, infrastructure gifts, and 1 Billion dollar support for the lebanese pound when israel bombed.
Did I miss something?

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lebanon_first: yes, rafic would have never let them go ahead with their takfiri and fitna plans, and i believe this is why they had him killed. with him alive sunni/shia strife and islamic extremism in lebanon would have been inconceivable.

Good point mowaten

But you think that changed now? Why?

FT. You have a point. But you are pinning the blame on Khalijis while the real ennemy here is globalization, not khalijis.

Khalijis 3aychin ma3na wou baleina. It is the ultracommercial lebanese who decided to enrich themselves and look for business opportunities everywhere.

Also the disfigurement of downtown Beirut is a symptom of globalization. Beirut was disfigured partly because All these "brand" shops that cater to an elite have opened in downtown, while the same can be said about shopping malls. It is a globalization problem not a khalijee problem.

Taef is the materialization of the defeat of christians in the lebanese civil war, and the victory of Syria. It is a very bad accord because the best garantee for lebanon is a strong christian president which Taef cancelled.

My point is that the Lebanon of the 70s that you moan was not destroyed singlehandedly by khalijees. It was destroyed by lebanese commercialism, Assad, Globalization and the khalijees.

hello Roar
well i dont really like to make predictions like this, because so many things can happen and change the course of events, but for the moment it seems pretty Assad isnt going anywhere and the conspiracy against Syria has failed.
Saudis are a bit int he cornered rat position, though, and this can be dangerous. With the failure in Syria, and being snubbed by the rest of the world when they made the deal with Iran, Saudis are going to want to bite even if just out of spite (they are probably behind the Iranian embassy bombing for that reason).
I dont think Turkey will go after Saudi though, they dont have any strong enough reason to want to pick any serious fight with them, they are probably just thinking about what they're going to do with the leftover residues of takfiris and mercenaries on their border with Syria..

lebanon_first: i didnt really understand what you meant...

"My point is that the Lebanon of the 70s that you moan was not destroyed singlehandedly by khalijees. It was destroyed by lebanese commercialism, Assad, Globalization and the khalijees."

you forgot the two biggest factors! what about israel and palestinians? at that time the khalijees were not really in the game. they started being involved in the late 80s, with rafic hariri as their peace envoy negotiating several accords being lebanese rivals

and most significantly, he always came with suitcases full of cash to "negotiate" those accords...
that's probably when they started realizing how much influence they could gain with those suitcases.

Mowaten

I was not refering to lebanon of the 70s and the civil war.

I was referring to FT moaning that lebanon changed and never returned to the original way he has in his mind. And I argued that the changes are due to globalization, not to khalijees.

@FT: yes, a consummate, systematic and thorough drainage of lebanese productive brains

How in your small brain do you link this to a Saudi Jihadist project ?

The only reason Lebanese flee to the gulf is to provide their families a better income and safe environment to prosper. They would give it all up in a minute if they could hav this at home.

I don't see hem fleeing to Iran though ! Can you explain why all (Shiite included) choose the gulf, Africa or the west ?

Hezbollah's weapons are the reason there is no stability in Lebanon, no safety, no tourists, no investors creating jobs.

In fact, name me one economical advantage Hezbollah is bringing to Lebanon ?

You are a true Aounie living a idiotic and paranoid illusion built for you by Aoun. A person who comes up with the stupidest understanding of the situation as dictated by a psychotic leader.

PS : Hezbolah itself is not a jihadist project ? Hassan uses the word all the time !

FT.
You are answering pretty aggressively for a mundane discussion... pls tone it down a notch.

You are bemoaning that lebanon did not become what you imagine it should have become have the khalijees not "subtly waged their money war, post taef".

How do you imagine Lebanon should have become without these khalijees "subtle war"?

Because I think that you are trying to blame others while in reality the Lebanese are to blame if there is a blame.

For some reason you geared your mind to find fault exclusively in khalijee related stuff such as wahabis, sunnites, mustakbal, petrodollars.
And you absolve all other parties, whether lebanese or farsis of any responsability for our situation.

lol, all one has to do is count the number of insults you used in this article alone. you're not fooling anyone but yourself.

there is no such thing as moderate rebels, they are all under the Al Qaeda islamist wing now, read the media. And no i didn't say read Al Manar, i say read Western media! Even they admit it by now

Loool atleast they act and don't talk the talk my friend ;)

he is an exact copy paste of his father who buried thousands in mass graves in hama and built schools and public buildings over them.... this is the kind of regime supported proudly by M8....

+ 10000

lol yea, among those 120,000 there was no soldier killed by the rebels/mercenaries/jihadis. there wasn't any civilians killed by that same trash, and there wasnt any rebels killed by the army.
it was all bashar on his own, killing innocent unarmed civilians. tony, thank you for bringing us back to reality, we were so far from it.

yea, because he didnt give in to takfiris, if takfiris kill people it's his fault. i dont know what world you live in, but please stay in it, dont try crashing into the real world, it's not for you.