عون يرى أن خلاف لاسا "صراع أخوة": مخالفات ريفي لا تؤهله لولاية أخرى

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شرح رئيس تكتل "التغيير أن "هناك سلسلة مخالفات جسيمة للمدير العام لقوى الأمن الداخلي أشرف ريفي لا تؤهله لاستلام المنصب" لولاية أخرى مشيرا في سياق آخر إلى أن الخلاف في بلدة لاسا الجبيلية "يحصل بين إخوة وجرى اتفاق على الفرز بين المناطق".

واستغرب عون بعد اجتماع التكتل عصر الثلثاء من الرابية كيف أن "بيان بكركي الذي صدر هو عن مجمل أصحاب العلاقة المختلفين دخل أناس سياسيين وإعلاميين ليسعروا الخلاف بين الناس".

وشدد على أن "الخلاف على الملكية يحصل بين إخوة "فيبيعونا ياها" من يتصيدوا بالمياه العكرة ولا يحاولوا النيل من شعبهم ومجتمعهم بفتن جماعية" لافتا إلى أن "ما من خلاف شيعي مسيحي وحزب الله ليس بحاجة للدفاع عنه".

وعدد عون ما سماها "مخالفات" سبق وقام ريفي فأشار إلى "إجراء تدابير أمنية خلافا لأوامر وزير الداخلية والتصريح على أنه ولد من رحم 14 آذار وعدم معرفته بالقانون الذي يجب عليه تطبيقه".

وتابع في السياق عينه:"ريفي خاف المادة 2 من تنظيم قوى الأمن الداخلي التي جعلته يؤلف جهازا أمنيا خلافا للمرسوم 8" مستنتجا أن "هذه كلها لا تؤهله لاستلام المنصب بعيدا عن الكيدية".

وتكلم عون عن سلاح حزب الله فأشار إلى حالة "هذيان" لدى الشعب اللبناني في بعض المواضيع "مثل قرار السلم والحرب الذي هو بيد إسرائيل وأميركا فقط ومهاجمة حزب الله هو لأنه ممانع ضد إسرائيل".

وأضاف :" ثانيا ليس نحن من جعل لبنان ساحة مواجهة بل المعركة فرضت علينا ولا نهرب منها، ثالثا شرعية السلاح تأتي من مشروعية الدفاع عن الحق والأرض بوجه العدو وحزب الله لم يدخل في صراع داخلي إلا للحظات على خلفية قرار للدولة اللبنانية".

وفي إشارة إلى رئيس الهيئة التنفيذية في القوات اللبنانية سمير جعجع الذي قال أن تجربة اللقاء الماروني في بكركي غير مشجعة وأنه سيفكر مرتين قبل المشاركة مرة أخرى قال عون :"لا أحد يجبر الآخر على حضور لقاءات بكركي".

وتكلم عون عن سلاح حزب الله فأشار إلى حالة "هذيان" لدى الشعب اللبناني في بعض المواضيع "مثل قرار السلم والحرب الذي هو بيد إسرائيل وأميركا فقط ومهاجمة حزب الله هو لأنه ممانع ضد إسرائيل".

وأضاف :" ثانيا ليس نحن من جعل لبنان ساحة مواجهة بل المعركة فرضت علينا ولا نهرب منها، ثالثا شرعية السلاح تأتي من مشروعية الدفاع عن الحق والأرض بوجه العدو وحزب الله لم يدخل في صراع داخلي إلا للحظات على خلفية قرار للدولة اللبنانية".

وفي إشارة إلى رئيس الهيئة التنفيذية في القوات اللبنانية سمير جعجع الذي قال أن تجربة اللقاء الماروني في بكركي غير مشجعة وأنه سيفكر مرتين قبل المشاركة مرة أخرى قال عون :"لا أحد يجبر الآخر على حضور لقاءات بكركي".

وكان قد منع عناصر من حزب الله وفدا من الرابطة المارونية من مسح أراض تابعة لمطرانية صربا المارونية واعتدت في اليوم التالي على فريق عمل الـ"MTV" ومنعه من التصوير إلى أن تم اجتماع في بكركي اتفق فيه على حل الموضوع خلال شهرين بعيدا عن الحملات الإعلامية.

وعقد اجتماع في دارة النائب السابق فارس سعيد طالب بـ"تطبيق القانون وعدم الدخول في أي تسوية أيا يكن موقف المراجع الروحية أو الرسمية" واعتبر أن "الدولة تخلت عن وظيفتها بتنفيذ القانون عندما جلست مع ممثل "حزب الله" وجرّت الكنيسة وراءها للدخول في تسوية".

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  • 17:23 ,2011 تموز 26

    عون لحقوقيي 14 آذار: عندما تطالب الأمم المتحدة الدولة بالإلتزام تتم عبر 3 مؤسسات مجلس النواب والحكومة ورئاسة الجمهورية والتعامل جرى سابقا بالتهريب لذلك نحن غير ملزمين بالتعامل مع الأمم المتحدة، ثانيا هناك مبدأ في التشريع لا يتم وفق المناسبات وقرارات إتهامية متدرجة وتوقيف شخص بدون تهمـ أو قاضي تحقيق يترك شهود الزور "فالتين" وإذا كان من يجتمع في البريستول حقوقيون يعملون عن ماذا أتكلم

  • 17:18 ,2011 تموز 26

    عون: نحن بحثنا عن السلاح منذ 4 سنين ولم يبحث أحد عن الإستراتيجية الدفاعية وتسيس موضوع السلاح وأذكركم أن لدى الشعب هذيان في بعض المواضيع مثل قرار السلم والحرب الذي هو بيد إسرائيل وأميركا فقط ومهاجمة حزب الله هو لأنه ممانع ضد إسرائيل، ثانيا ليس نحن من جعل لبنان ساحة مواجهة بل المعركة فرضت علينا ولا نهرب منها، ثالثا شرعية السلاح تأتي من مشروعية الدفاع عن الحق والأرض بوجه العدو وحزب الله لم يدخل في صراع داخلي إلا للحظات على خلفية قرار للدولة اللبنانية

  • 17:17 ,2011 تموز 26

    عون: آمل أن تكون الدعايات التي حصلت على ملف فايز كرم لا تؤثر على عمل القضاة وأن يتم تحليل صحيح لعناصر الجريمة

  • 17:16 ,2011 تموز 26

    عون: نحن نضيق ذرعا بالإعلام عندما يبدأ بالإفتراء وأنا لم أقل أنني ملزما بالدفاع عن حزب الله بل قلت أن هناك خلافا بين الإخوة وقلنا أن التحكيم بدأ برعاية غبطة البطريرك وأنا دوري أن أقول أنه ما من خلاف شيعي مسيحي وأصحاب العلاقة وحزب الله ليس بحاجة للدفاع عنه

  • 17:13 ,2011 تموز 26

    عون: لا أحد يجبر الآخر على حضور لقاءات بكركي

  • 17:13 ,2011 تموز 26

    عون: هناك سلسلة مخالفات جسيمة للواء ريفي منها إجراء تدابير أمنية خلافا لأوامر وزير الداخلية والتصريح على أنه ولد من رحم 14 آذار، مثلا لا يعرف ما هو القانون الذي يجب عليه تطبيقه، مخالفة المادة 2 من تنظيم قوى الأمن الداخلي التي جعلته يؤلف جهازا أمنيا خلافا للمرسوم 8، هذه كلها لا تؤهله لاستلام المنصب بعيد عن الكيدية

  • 17:10 ,2011 تموز 26

    عون: بيان بكركي الذي صدر هو عن مجمل أصحاب العلاقة المختلفين فما دخل أناس سياسيين وإعلاميين ليسعروا الخلاف بين الناس، الخلاف على الملكية يحصل بين إخوة "فيبيعونا ياها" من يتصيدوا بالمياه العكرة ولا يحاولوا النيل من شعبهم ومجتمعهم بفتن جماعية

  • 17:06 ,2011 تموز 26

    عون: هناك اعتمادات أجلت عدة مرات قبل استقالة الحكومة

  • 17:06 ,2011 تموز 26

    عون: الجميع يعلم أن هناك خلافا منذ 1939 على المسح في لاسا وهناك محاولة ركيكة للمسح لأن هناك شروطا للمسح في النزاعات ولكن لم يتم هذا المشروع وانعقد على أثره لقاء تحكيمي في بكركي بحضور وكلاء مطرانية صربا وجرى اتفاقية صدر على أثرها توافق على الفرز بين المناطق

  • 17:05 ,2011 تموز 26

    رئيس تكتل "التغيير والإصلاح" النائب ميشال عون بعد اجتماع التكتل من الرابية: نتأمل من الحكومة الجديدة أن تسرع بالعمل في القطاعات الحياتية الضرورية وكنواب نطلب منها رفع المشاريع المتأخرة بسرعة فعلية فمن المعلوم أنه من 2010 ليس هناك موازنة ولكن هناك حاجات يجب تأمينها وأتمنى ألا يجبرونا على التكلم بالتفاصيل لأن هناك عدم وعي في المسؤوليات

التعليقات 37
Thumb ithinkthere14iam 17:31 ,2011 تموز 26

Why won't you die already!!!!!!!

Missing joseph 17:35 ,2011 تموز 26

Wussy!

Missing joseph 17:35 ,2011 تموز 26

There were times where integrity really meant something. It is becoming such an expensive commodity these days. I only blame citizen like us beleiving in you. You should go and burry yourself general Aoun

Default-user-icon Youssef Haddad (ضيف) 17:49 ,2011 تموز 26

Enjoy these last opportunities to say what you do not mean in the confidence that those who support you are gullible enough to recycle whatever garbage you tell them !
The wave of change is coming and will soon redress the Lebanese political scene by wiping out all those who were brought to power by selling their souls to the Syrian and Iranian regimes.
I say prepare to escape, then again you could teach all of us a trick or two in this domain.

Thumb ado.australia 17:51 ,2011 تموز 26

Thinkthere14iam... Why do u wish death on him? I dont think Sheik Sami would approve and I know many of Aoun's voters did not wish death on the martyr sheik pierre. I know many of aoun's supporters were kaataeb and supporters of sheik bashir. The problem is when geagea and hebaika began fighting each other. This mentality should stop.

Default-user-icon Citizen (ضيف) 18:05 ,2011 تموز 26

MP Aoun: The legitimacy of the arms is derived from the right to defend the country against aggression. Hizbullah only turned its weapons on the internal scene over a decision taken by the Lebanese cabinet.
To the retired General I say: not only the legitimacy of arms is derived from the right to defend the country, but more importantly from the will and legitimacy of the people. These arms are carried by a single sect, and have no national consensus! Imagine what would happen if a group decided to carry arms and claim it is defending the country? Defending the country is the sole Responsibility of the State and Armed Forces. The constitution is clear on this issue. If you want to legitimize Hizbullah weapons, you need to have a referendum. Using weapons as a result of a decision they did not agree with is shameful and makes them an outlaw organization. If citizens resort to arms every time they don't agree with something, we will end up in chaos as we are right now.

Default-user-icon jhonn (ضيف) 18:06 ,2011 تموز 26

We will pray to see him dead! walla but dt lose hope my friend bcose i think he is at his last stage of madness!!!! just hope that some of us as christian wont be as mad as him to follow such crazy man!!!

Default-user-icon Ali (ضيف) 18:11 ,2011 تموز 26

MP Aoun: ISF chief Rifi has committed a number of violations, including taking security measures against the Interior Minister’s orders.

I did not see you raise an eyebrow when Hizbullah and your allies refused to take measures by removing the airport security chief in May 2009 against the cabinet's orders???? Instead, they butchered the lebanese and beirut residents while you were in Rabiye sipping wine!
What about when Wafiq Jezeeni disobeyed orders of the then interior minister Ahmad Fatfat.....? You also kept your big mouth shut then.

You only command respect with people who have the same double standards as you.

Default-user-icon Eagle (ضيف) 18:20 ,2011 تموز 26

He said after the Change and Reform bloc’s weekly meeting: “His statement that he was born out of the March 14 camp’s womb is one of his violations because this is not part of the ISF law.”

What about your statement Mr. Aoun the other day that your future and lebanon's future is with Iran, Syria, and Hizbullah??? Is that part of the citizenship and passport you carry???? Is it part of being Lebanese to declare allegiance to foreign powers so openly? I think if Rifi is from the womb of March 14, then you must be from the womb of a whore.

Default-user-icon Truth (ضيف) 18:24 ,2011 تموز 26

I only refer to an article published by the journalist Charles Ayoub , who replied violently in an article in the ad diyar newspaper to personal attacks against him. He dug in his memory as a soldier working for a general , called then Michel Aoun, to remind him of the following: his cowerdness and personal fear from flying bullets when he was with his soldiers and left them to seek protection, his fear from authority, then President Amine Gemayel, his collaboration with the israelis storming houses in west Beirur in 1982, his acceptance of a hefty money grant from businessman Chaghoury ( 5M dollars per month cited by name in the article), the control of all money contributions to his movements that go on a personal account,.......this articme didn't draw any reaction from the temptuous reactive General! General when you point a finger you and politcal allies, 3 fingers are pointing back at you! Sopn you will loose this nerd smile of yours, when the STL proceedings move forward, and

Default-user-icon Blue (ضيف) 18:25 ,2011 تموز 26

MP Aoun: The Bkirki statement encompassed the people involved in the dispute, so what do politicians and media officials have to do with it? The dispute over land ownership is between the citizens.

Wow.... you contradict urself in the same statement!!!! If it is truly a dispute between citizens why did u ask Bkirki to get involved? and why would Hizbullah be involved? You have no shame...... A dispute between citizens is normally handled by the security agencies. You got Bkirki involved and gave legitimacy to the thugs!

Default-user-icon Truth (ضيف) 18:26 ,2011 تموز 26

And at the next elections! You are a better resident in Deir El Salib than in Rabieh..

Default-user-icon just wondering (ضيف) 18:40 ,2011 تموز 26

"Rifi’s Numerous Violations Makes him Ineligible to Remain in his Position"... are any of those violations running away and leaving his troops behind to be slaughtered, executed and kidnapped then denying they ever existed?

Default-user-icon Tired (ضيف) 18:43 ,2011 تموز 26

MP Aoun: I hope the media campaigns on the issue of Fayez Karam won’t affect the judges’ work.

I also hope the media campaigns on the issue of the STL won't affect the judge's work!

Default-user-icon lebo (ضيف) 18:46 ,2011 تموز 26

I wonder what was ado's opinion about the hezballah forum a few month ago were there was a call to crucify Sheikh Sami did our good little apologist ado start gathering the nails and wood for them to do the job.

Default-user-icon Neal G (ضيف) 19:06 ,2011 تموز 26

After reading what Aoun Said today , i;m convinced more then ever that the man is mentally unstable and will say and do anything to satisfy his ego even at the expense of his own people . but what i really fine troubling is that there is some people in Lebanon actually believe him

Thumb ado.australia 19:13 ,2011 تموز 26

Lebo... I do not know what forum you are talking about, but I can assure you that I would be defending sheik Sami against any one that was calling for his death! I respect the Kaateb and sheik Sami. I might not agree with their current policy, but I would even defend saadadine bin rafic bin Abdu azziz if any idiot called for his death.

Missing joseph 19:21 ,2011 تموز 26

All you said is in support of HZB and cannotates how feeble, 2nd rated follower you are!
Are you selling us HZB stance, and convincing us of what you are not convinced of? Please don't!
I need to know what you think not what HZB thinks.
General, you already sound defeated, If you need help, just say so, there is much more dignity in that.

Default-user-icon Pacifier (ضيف) 19:34 ,2011 تموز 26

he is trying to remove the only left good security source the citizens have which is the ISF's Ashrafi Rifi, which is known everywhere to be a good man, he disobeyed when your dog Nahhas went to remove cables and get information for Hezbollah while the governement was non operative, he didnt have the right to do that which is a violation of the LAW and Police chief must act. EVERYWHERE in the world you fools Mowaten , big dig and le phenicen, never a police chief asks permission to deny a thug from accessing public and state companies. You will soon rot in the eternal fires of Hell mon GENERAL, every sane person is witness to your treason when you swore allegiance to Iran the other day, may god never have mercy on your twisted , wiked soul.

Default-user-icon aoun's pants is on fire (ضيف) 19:51 ,2011 تموز 26

“The decision of war and peace is in Israeli and American hands, not in Lebanon and Hizbullah’s control,” .. LIE, didn't Nasrallah say in his first TV appearance after kidnapping the Israelis that he was fulfilling his promise to the families of the prisoners in Israel and that Israel's reply would be limited. Didn't Nasrallah later admit that if he had known who hard Israel would respond he wouldn't have gone ahead with the kidnapping.

Default-user-icon Gebran Sons for Cedar Revolution II in 2013 (ضيف) 19:59 ,2011 تموز 26

Aoun is speaking but the voice coming out of his mouth is unmistakably that of Hizbollah and Assad. Christian survivability depends on freedom, transparent democracy and positive neutrality. Aoun has sold Lebanon's freedom and democracy for his Faustian deal to become president. His margin of action has been defined by Hizb and everything he does or say is to benefit Hizb's agenda of taking over state institutions while hiding behind dummies like Aoun, Miqati or Jumblat. As to reform, Aoun understands reform as much as Khadafi understand democracy. He is the king of nepotism and influence peddling recognized by all civilized country as the worst form of political corruption. Aoun has not realized that all tyrants are living on borrowed time include those in Damascus, Tehran and Hizbollahstan. As Mubarak, Ali and Khadafi will be brought to justice, so will Aoun and all useful idiots who conspired against Lebanon's sovereignty and independence.

Default-user-icon semsar (ضيف) 20:00 ,2011 تموز 26

The issue of land ownership has been settled according to Sheikh Qabalan it all belongs to the Shiites.

Default-user-icon moallek (ضيف) 21:30 ,2011 تموز 26

Le p’tit Michel s’en va-t- en guerre,
Mironton, mironton, mirontaine,
Le p’tit Michel s’en va-t- en guerre,
Sous les ordres de Nasrallah.

Tous voudraient le voir sous terre,
Tout de suite et maintenant,
Tous voudraient le voir sous terre ;
Sous les ordres de Nasrallah.

Il rêve du trône de Baabda,
A la place de Soleimane.
Il rêve du trône de Baabda,
Sous les ordres de Nasrallah.

Mais un jour il se réveille,
Ligoté dans un lit.
Mais un jour il se réveille,
Aux cotés de Nasrallah.

Deux camisoles de force
Les maintiennent tranquilles,
Deux camisoles de force
Pour lui et Nasrallah.

Default-user-icon proGMA (ضيف) 21:59 ,2011 تموز 26

Why no one asks him about the multimillions made by im-bassil, by Simon & Co and by himself hidden in an account under his wife's name?

Default-user-icon proGMA (ضيف) 22:02 ,2011 تموز 26

May be MOWATEN could answer the questions about the multimillions, since he knows GMA very well ??? Min ayna laka haza ya GMA ???? I am sure he will tell you the truth.

Default-user-icon Salompas (ضيف) 22:56 ,2011 تموز 26

The dismantling of Mafia Hariri is serious business and it has already begun. Decent Lebanese, REJOICE!!!

Thumb ithinkthere14iam 23:43 ,2011 تموز 26

Ado: it is simply addition by subtraction. Gma knows this and he knows his time is coming, hence the grooming of his illegitimate successor imbassil

Thumb ithinkthere14iam 23:48 ,2011 تموز 26

Also, though I personally wish death upon the man, i am nit a crazed heretic like others and play god, in the name of god ;)

Default-user-icon Truth (ضيف) 00:01 ,2011 تموز 27

Thank you Ali for rreminding ths idiot how theairport security officer disobeyed not only the orders of a minister, but the whole cabinet, and how about Wafic Jezzini! If this Aoun had an alzheimer he would command respect, and would be largely excused for his dangerous foolish behaviour. But he' doesn't . It' s all short sighted calculations, stemming from a sick ego. General , rest assured you will stand proudly in the lebanese history books and will be remembered as the lebanese Petain !

Default-user-icon Truth (ضيف) 00:16 ,2011 تموز 27

'Hizbollah turned his weapons on the internal scene after a cabinet decision'. very good mon general. And Israel turned their weapons against Lebanon after a Hezbollah decision then! Senseless idiotc logic. Does this mean Hizbollah doesn' t abide by government decisions, he is above the State, he IS the state??

Default-user-icon Reader (ضيف) 00:22 ,2011 تموز 27

@mowaten Look at your comments in other articles. You do nothing but insult other people and politicians. Hypocrite, just like your dear leader.

Missing future_vision 01:14 ,2011 تموز 27

To All M14

I love all ur comments .. it makes me smile to see that we all agree that MA is just crazy and has no principles other than the seat of presidency .. God forbid it will be the end of Lebanon if that happens ..

Lephenicien waynak mekhtfe? mabboud commented but he is feeling left alone

2013 elections are for us !!! and no one will steal our government this time even Weapons wont threat us
@moallek
I loved ur song !! hahaha

Default-user-icon Falanges (ضيف) 02:15 ,2011 تموز 27

If you Rifi goes, we will wage war and get ready for another dirty civil war.

Thumb joesikemrex 07:44 ,2011 تموز 27

Hizbullah only turned its weapons on the internal scene over a decision taken by the Lebanese cabinet. So Mr Orange Puppet, that means any decision by a real Lebanese government that your Yellow master dislikes can attack FREE Lebanese people.
Its time to start a real Lebanese resistance to get rid of you first.

Thumb canaanite 13:32 ,2011 تموز 27

Am I late??

I call for a petition to be signed for the number of people that want Michel Aoun gone!

Default-user-icon Chi Fekhem (ضيف) 13:52 ,2011 تموز 27

"وكان قد منع عناصر من حزب الله وفدا من الرابطة المارونية من مسح أراض تابعة لمطرانية صربا المارونية واعتدت في اليوم التالي على فريق عمل الـ"MTV" ومنعه من التصوير"
I mean if thats what U call a missunderstanding between brothers and even tho I know U have lost Your mind. But this is a confirmation on how crazy You are and how stupid You think we are knowing that You are only here and still barking cos of some lunatics like You that keeps cheering in Your name and Another "SO CALLED LEADER" is dragging You like his puppet

Default-user-icon Stavros (ضيف) 15:48 ,2011 تموز 27

People should march up to Lassa along side the media and find out whether its really a 1930 border dispuet as MA the nutter claims or whether its become another arm depot Hizb has secured in the middle of a lebanese christian village..

Only problem is that will give Hizb an excuse to blow them up as crazyman Aounistan said “Hizbullah did not direct its weapons to the internal scene except in response to a decision by the Lebanese government,” . So brave people how march be ready to get blown up because ur basically asking for it.