السنيورة رداً على نصرالله: كلامه متسرّع ويلغي ارادة الشعب

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رد رئيس "كتلة المستقبل النيابية" فؤاد السنيورة على كلام الامين العام لـ"حزب الله" السيد حسن نصرالله عن اسقاط قواعد الاشتباك مع اسرائيل بأنه قرار "متسرّع ومتفرّد".

وفي كلمة القاها خلال ندوة في الجامعة الاميركية في بيروت، ظهر السبت، أكد السنيورة انه من غير المقبول ان "تتحول شوارع بيروت بالامس الى شوارع خوف نتيجة الرصاص المتساقط".

ولفت الى ان "هذه الاعمال لا تخدم اهداف حزب الله".

ووصف كلام نصرالله بأنه "متفرد ومتسرع ويلغي ارادة الشعب اللبناني". الى ذلك شدد السنيورة على انه "ليس مسموحا لاي طرف ان يقرر عن اللبنانيين والسلطات المنبثقة عنه".

من هنا، رأى السنيورة ان "كلام الامس لا يحترم ارادة اللبنانيين وحقوق الانسان ويلحق بهم المزيد من الخسائر".

وفي خطاب ألقاه عبر الشاشة في خلال احتفال جماهيري "بذكرى شهداء القنيطرة" بعد ظهر الجمعة في مجمع سيد الشهداء، أعلن نصرالله أن الحزب لم يعد معنيا "بأية قواعد اشتباك" مع إسرائيل ولا حتى "بأي زمان ومكان" للرد بعد الإعتداء عليه في القنيطرة السورية".

وتزامن الخطاب مع سماع دوي قذائف صاروخية في العاصمة بيروت إضافة إلى إطلاق نار كثيف اشتد خلال بدء الخطاب ليخفت بعدها. ونقلت وسائل الإعلام مشاهد لسيارات متضررة وواجهات منازل من دون تسجيل وقوع إصابات بشرية.

ما دفع بوزير العدل أشرف ريفي الى الطلب من النيابات العامة التحرك واعتقال مطلقي النار.

وأكد ان قناعة تيار المستقبل "لن تتغير ولن نكل ونستسلم وسنظل نعمل في ظل الدولة والدستور".

وقال: "هناك من يدفع بلبنان للدخول في قلب العاصفة الهوجاء المحيطة بنا لكننا سنظل متمسكين بفرض سيادة الدولة على جميع اراضيها".

وتابع: "لبنان يمر بمرحلة حرجة جدا فاما نتسبب بضياع البلد اونغتنم الفرص المتاحة ونفتح المحال لسياسة المصلحة".

والاربعاء تبنى حزب الله هجوماً على قافلة عسكرية إسرائيلية مؤكدا وقوع "قتلى وجرحى" من قبل مجموعة سميت "مجموعة شهداء القنيطرة" الذي سقطوا الأحد في 18 الجاري بغارة إسرائيلية في بلدة القنيطرة السورية. إلا أن الجيش الإسرائيلي رد بقصف بلدات جنوبية معترفا بسقوط قتيلين منه وسقوط سبع إصابات.

ج.ش.

التعليقات 54
Thumb EagleDawn 14:26 ,2015 كانون الثاني 31

Your words are weak and irrelevant since you are not armed and don't command a sectarian militia.

Thumb Mystic 14:27 ,2015 كانون الثاني 31

M14 is not the will of the Lebanese people. Saniora also supported the zionists in 2006.

Default-user-icon thank you qatar- said al manar (ضيف) 15:51 ,2015 كانون الثاني 31

nah mystic the 2006 zionist is the guy who promised a calm summer then started a war, went into hiding, admitted he was wrong to start the war, ie hassan nasrallah.

Thumb -phoenix1 15:53 ,2015 كانون الثاني 31

Sorry Mystic, M14 is the very core of the will of the people. In spite of the endemic corruption that affects it, the people have gone twice to elect it to rule the nation, twice and convincingly. If the people chose M14 with its defects, then I wonder what M8 is. I am however left with little doubt as to what M8 really is, now after all the things that the Hezbollah-led M8 has been doing, there is every reason why today the people still prefer M14 miles ahead of M8. If you have any doubts, then let's call an election, or even better, let Geagea contest the presidential against Aoun, and let's just see the results then. I bet you, your beloved and dear Aoun will turn into a floor sponge in no time.

Thumb cityboy 16:22 ,2015 كانون الثاني 31

Phoenix, sometimes you have to put your pride aside in this life and accept the way things are today. Lebanon's defence lies in the work of the LAF and hezbollah, this equation is supported by the majority of the people, including members of the m14 despite having some political differences with hezbollah. The defence of the country at this point in time is not for discussion. Too much is at stake. I know you are Lf to the core but it's time to accept a new reality in Lebanon. If Hezbollah ever makes the mistake of stepping on anyone in Lebanon for self-interest motivations. I will be the first with you to criticize HA.

Thumb EagleDawn 16:40 ,2015 كانون الثاني 31

"If Hezbollah ever makes the mistake of stepping on anyone in Lebanon for self-interest motivations. I will be the first with you to criticize HA."

Get off your high horse and learn some humility. Your arrogance backed by illegal weapons and terrorism is the only reason people of your level are given a chance to talk. Your party of terror has stepped on everybody's toes for the sake of its sectarian foreign agenda. Go peddle your merchandise on Al Manar.

Thumb Mystic 16:46 ,2015 كانون الثاني 31

I did not expect you to write anything else Phoenix, ofcourse you will claim M14 is the "core" but you forget the 60% of Lebanon if not more, that are against M14's zionist views.

Vulturedawn, the weapons has never been used on the Lebanese people, whether you like that or not. You will probaly mention 2008 clashes, which was the M14 trying to play smart, and remove the resistance telecoms, and muscle them out.

You failed, you lost. Now, we have to hear you people whine everyday, real sore loosers.

Thumb Mystic 16:48 ,2015 كانون الثاني 31

Even during the 2008 clashes, the resistance refrained from using rockets on M14 strongholds. Hariris office got surrounded, and nobody executed him, the resistance could, but didn't. Resistance/LAF are the real justice of Lebanon, not Rifi and his ISF.

Thumb marcus 16:50 ,2015 كانون الثاني 31

I had to laugh @cityboy's comments. When Nassrallah says " We went to Syria to defend Shiite villages, etc" that is not considered self-interest. When he says "we went to Syria to defend the Syrian Regime" that is not self-interest. I can sight 100 examples of hizbullah self-interest in everything it does. Its interests lie with everything Iranian, Shiite, and sectarian.

Thumb cityboy 16:51 ,2015 كانون الثاني 31

eagledawn, if it were not for HA and the LAF, no one in lebanon would be given the chance to to talk even sell outs like you calling for Israel to bomb a third of Lebanon's population.

Thumb cityboy 16:57 ,2015 كانون الثاني 31

why is that funny Marcus, at least HA went openly admited to going into Syria, they stated a number of reasons for going into Syria, number one reason was to eliminate the threat of the takfiris when it became clear that they were carrying out an israeli agenda. Can't say for other members in Lebanon that were masking their involvement in syria with bread and blankets.

Thumb ex-fpm 17:04 ,2015 كانون الثاني 31

@cityboy or better known as @mowaten; Stop equating the LAF and your party of terror. Did HA inform, co-ordinate with, and communicate with the LAF before it launched the attack on Israel in 2006 and a couple of days ago? Did it inform the government in which it is represented of its actions that could have led to an open ended war? If that is not acting in self-interest then what is?
If the LAF had the political will to stop your party from fighting in Syria, would you be praising the LAF now? I doubt it. You people and your love for the LAF are fake....

Missing humble 17:13 ,2015 كانون الثاني 31

Phoenix
you talk to Mastica in a respectful way, as if he is of similar values, knowledge and competence.
The bearded civilization goes back to dark ages and has no respect for human value, women consideration, or differing faith or believes. Look at Iran and see what is happening on a daily basis.
People like Mastica wants to have a Teheran-on-sea and an Islamic Republic in Lebanon. When they deny it, they are using their Taqqiya to lie.

Thumb -phoenix1 17:27 ,2015 كانون الثاني 31

City, Your points have been duly noted and with lots of reservations. There's nothing about pride dear bro, it's only about that new reality that says that Hezbollah now has no more role to play in Lebanon, the only security role now belongs fully to the LAF and no one else. If for anything, Hezbollah is trying to buy itself a new lease of life, maybe it does have an option, but no longer in Lebanon, here Hezbollah is simply eroding whatever space it may once had, However all is not lost, since HA has been now in Syria for 4 years, its role is there, to fight alongside an ideological partner, that alone will keep you busy for the foreseeable future and more, it will also bleed you to your last drop of blood. Because of that, by which time my best bet as a Lebanese citizen is to anchor my security a lot more on the shoulders of my army. Nothing to do with pride dearest City, just some common sense.

Thumb -phoenix1 17:33 ,2015 كانون الثاني 31

Mystic, there was a time when you did not expect anything else of me to write, since in those days I still had some goodwill towards Hezbollah. How many times did I get into protracted debates with fellow members in this forum, I was even mentioned by your side as the example to follow. Mystic, ya habibi, if for anything look at me as the very moderate side of Lebanon's public sentiments, so when I make my shift away from that crucial goodwill towards HA, it means simply that people like me have become truly fed up and truly exasperated with HA. M14 is no less Lebanese than you Mystic so please khaye, stop calling it Zionist this or that, if opposing your side's views means such, then I must be the world's biggest Zionist ever ma heyk? M14 remains a way out of M8's choking grip and one that leaves hope for most Lebanese, it does not sound concordant to HA's survival, but it will get more marked as time goes and as more people become antagonistic over HA's acts.

Thumb ex-fpm 17:39 ,2015 كانون الثاني 31

Ironic that HA followers refer to us as zionists/traitors/sellouts, etc. Yet every spy, every traitor, every sellout has been a member of Hezbollah and Hezbollah alone.

Thumb Mystic 17:52 ,2015 كانون الثاني 31

Yet it is M14, that tries to claim that they represent the "Will" of the Lebanese people, de facto imposing their will on all Lebanon, the very subject you claim the Resistance is doing, which is not true.

Phoenix, you want the demise of the Resistance no doubt. I want the demise of the zionist entities of Lebanon, which indeed are the M14. The LAF, you claim to support are backing the Resistance, because they know, without the Resistance Lebanon is doomed.

Countries around the world, would never consider Lebanon, a strong and independant state, without the Resistance presence. Israel would consider Lebanon part of greater Israel, and that is what M14's true intentions are.

Thumb cityboy 17:57 ,2015 كانون الثاني 31

phoenix, I will commend you in that your reply was fair from a civil debating perspective. I still differ with you equally on the content of your arguement. You seem to think HA is on it's last leg, I think the situation is just the opposite. HA role is more crucial for the whole Lebanon, and their relevance is equally as important if not more than before. They are stronger now than a decade ago. Nothing has changed in the region which would allow for the dissarming onf HA, in fact, the resistance is needed all the more. Of course time will tell who is right. I was the first on this board to support HA intervention in Syria and I continue to support them there for the sake of the anti-israeli block that we should not forget Lebanon is a part of, despite your objections to that fact.

Thumb cityboy 18:17 ,2015 كانون الثاني 31

that's good you feel that way endlesstexas, when the takfiris in syria are defeated, will invite you the victory party.

Thumb cityboy 19:10 ,2015 كانون الثاني 31

endlesstexas, there is a big difference between agreeing to a ceasefire for the sake of human life and to move on to bigger goals than crying for a ceasefire. The latter would be the case would you are losing badly as in israels case. Israel was killing lebanese civilians so of course HA thought it was in the best interest to go along with a ceasefire. Ir was insrael that wanted war in the first place, all HA wanted was the return of lebanese prisoners or did you forget that part. mission accomplished.

Thumb Mystic 19:21 ,2015 كانون الثاني 31

texas assumptions and theories would hit guinneas records, if he went that way.

Thumb lubnani.masi7i 21:14 ,2015 كانون الثاني 31

أعلنت إيران أنها ستستمر بدعم حلفائها في المنطقة من خلال التواجد العسكري في العراق وسوريا ولبنان من أجل الحفاظ على أمنها القومي، حسب ما صرح به قائد الحرس الثوري الإيراني اللواء محمد علي جعفري.
وأشار جعفري إلى أن إيران مستمرة بما أسماه "الجهاد المسلح" في خارج البلاد، في إشارة إلى الدعم العسكري الذي تقدمه طهران لحلفائها في المنطقة.
ولوح جعفري خلال كلمة له، أمس الجمعة، بأن التواجد العسكري الإيراني في العراق وسوريا ولبنان سيستمر، حسب ما نقلت عنه وكالة أنباء "فارس" التابعة للحرس الثوري الإيراني.
وبحسب جعفري فإن "عددا محدودا من العناصر العسكرية مسموح ببقائها في كل من العراق وسوريا ولبنان، وذلك بأوامر من المرشد الأعلى علي خامنئي".
وأكد قائد الحرس الثوري أنه "لا حاجة لحرب عسكرية لحماية الأمن القومي داخل البلد، أما خارج الحدود فإن الجهاد المسلح مستمر ضد أعداء الثورة الإسلامية"، على حد تعبيره.

Thumb lubnani.masi7i 21:15 ,2015 كانون الثاني 31

وهدد جعفري إسرائيل بشن عمليات أخرى ضد إسرائيل، قائلا "على الكيان الصهيوني أن ينتظر ردا آخر على غارة القنيطرة، وأن هذا الرد سيكون ساحقا وأكثر قوة، ولن يكون فقط عند حدوده، بل في أي مكان يتواجد فيه الصهاينة أو أتباعهم".
وتابع في كلمته التي ألقاها خلال مشاركته في مؤتمر تحت عنوان "الجهاد مستمر" عقدته وزارة الداخلية الإيرانية بأن "رد إيران هو ذاته رد حزب الله"، قائلا "نحن وحزب الله واحد، وأينما أريقت دماء شهدائنا في الجبهات فإن ردنا سيكون واحداً".
وأضاف "إن رد حزب الله ضد الكيان الصهيوني في شبعا لن يكون الأخير، وعليه توقع المزيد"، معرباً عن أمله بأن "يكون ذلك درس عبرة للاحتلال كي لا يكرر فعلته الحمقاء"، على حد تعبيره.

Thumb scorpyonn 19:52 ,2015 كانون الثاني 31

Mystic, you have beat that dead horse relentlessly with your conspiracy theories and it has become irritating. The Lebanese govt is the legitimate ruler of the Lebanese, not Iran. Take your illiterate women with headscarves and your old men, your Shiite clerics and and move to Qom.

Thumb freedomarch 02:03 ,2015 شباط 01

@My Stic: You as a person and you as hizEbila supporter you as propagandist on Naharnet, should end your attack on people's brains and memory, remember the time when you did not find except Seniora to help in stopping the war via United Nations and world leaders whom he can mobilize? That is Saniora, while You provoked to get us into this trouble.

Missing mansour 14:42 ,2015 كانون الثاني 31

I say Hizbullah go get your so called victory....just remember after you lose your cities and 1000's dead just claim victory regardless!
May the Bombs rain down on you guys give my regards to your almighty.

Long Live The Syrian Civil War!

Default-user-icon + oua nabka + (ضيف) 15:52 ,2015 كانون الثاني 31

your right mr saniora , 1701 should be respected cause its signed by the Lebanese government
so let the Lebanese government stop israely ,aircraft and seaships and drones and ,...from entering Lebanese territories since 2006 it was counted by thousands of incursions
and may god punish ya saniora who refused to arm our Lebanese army
god bless democracy

Thumb cityboy 16:27 ,2015 كانون الثاني 31

Sanoria is just upset Ms. C Rice is not coming around for another kiss.

Thumb marcus 16:54 ,2015 كانون الثاني 31

You begged PM Saniora to arrange for a ceasefire back in 2006.

Thumb cityboy 17:00 ,2015 كانون الثاني 31

The only one begging Saniora to call for a ceasefire were the Israelis. Just remember whose side Saniora was on during that time.

Thumb -phoenix1 17:39 ,2015 كانون الثاني 31

City, I fully disagree with you, had it not been Siniora, then there would not have been a ceasefire on that blessed day of 15 August, the blessed Virgin Mary's day. Israel was then advancing fast in the last 2 days of their onslaught on Lebanon, they had demolished all of Hezbollah's positions and were estimated to be near Beirut sooner than later. City, we should not distort history, in fact, there is ample evidence to prove Siniora's intensive shuttle diplomacy, at HA HQ, when Israel finally went for that major push, everyone was holding their breath, till Siniora got that life and face-saving cease fire. Well, then thereafter we all know what Sayed Hassan did calling what was fast becoming a crushing HA defeat into a celestial victory. Please City, the reading public is of legal age, not of a KG level, please....

Thumb ex-fpm 17:43 ,2015 كانون الثاني 31

with our airport closed, our infrastructure destroyed, our port under siege and the IDF reaching Litani river hours before the cease fire came into effect.... the Israelis were begging Saniora for a cease fire:)))) Amazing

Thumb cityboy 18:08 ,2015 كانون الثاني 31

Ok normally i cant tolorate your opinions phoenix even though i know you hate HA very much. But it is you that is distorting history here. If you seriously believe that the Israelis were sympothatic to a prime minister named Saniora then you are the one that needs to give your head a shake here. This is israel that we are talking about, an entity that kills without any regard for human life. Israel was desperate to get out of a war that is was losing on all accounts. You are to telling us that they demolished all hezbollah positions, oh please phoenix, you know that is simply not true whatsoever. Israel could barely get a few kilometers into lebanon and you want us now to believe that they were estimated to be near beirut sooner than later. I agree though that the reading public is of legal age, so please remember that next time you want to distort history.

Thumb cityboy 18:12 ,2015 كانون الثاني 31

what's the matter ex-fpm, why do you omit the number of soldiers israel was losing, or the israeli citizens hunkerd down in shelters for over 30 days, or how about the political fall out of the israeli adventure that went totally wrong for them.

Thumb cityboy 18:19 ,2015 كانون الثاني 31

typo above, meant normally i can tollorate

Thumb ex-fpm 18:31 ,2015 كانون الثاني 31

ya cityboy: "Israeli army units reached the Litani River on Saturday, less than 24 hours after the government ordered an operation to march toward the river in a final push against entrenched Hezbollah guerrillas, Israel Radio reported.

The units were part of a massive force that flooded into Lebanon, trying to seize as much territory as possible before a U.N. cease-fire comes into effect. The objective was to control southern Lebanon up to the Litani River, about 18 miles from the Israeli border, before handing over the area to the Lebanese army and U.N. troops."

If you consider 18 miles or 18x1.6=29 kms inside Lebanon a "few kilometers" then I have nothing further to say.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1682477/posts

Thumb cityboy 19:15 ,2015 كانون الثاني 31

ex-fpm, try quoting another source other than israeli military radio. Besides, HA fighters were still in control of many of the towns right along the israeli border. If you think israel had total control of areas south of the litani river than you are mistaking. It was a political show to presnt it as israel did not lose the war. It failed badly.

Thumb cityboy 19:26 ,2015 كانون الثاني 31

endlesstexas, perhaps you should try staying couped up in a shelter during the hottest month of the year. Try it and tell us how pleasant it is.

Missing peace 19:56 ,2015 كانون الثاني 31

brrrr, sure it is a divine victory to let israelis couped up in a shelter during the hottest month of the year. my god how much have they suffered! it took 1200 lebanese lives and the whole economy in shatters so that they would suffer like that! oh my!

Thumb liberty 05:20 ,2015 شباط 01

mowaten says "try quoting another source other than israeli military radio". So the Israeli tanks that were at the banks of the Litany River were photoshopped as well. LOL shameless people

Missing humble 16:48 ,2015 كانون الثاني 31

Silence from the coward Caporal.
If Caporal says loud on TV that "Ebola has confiscated the state decision. That Ebola must surrender its weapons. That he is not for Mutelateh. That the Butcher is an assassin. That the best course for Lebanon is Neutrality". Then he will be my candidate.

Missing humble 17:14 ,2015 كانون الثاني 31

Phoenix
you talk to Mastica in a respectful way, as if he is of similar values, knowledge and competence.
The bearded civilization goes back to dark ages and has no respect for human value, women consideration, or differing faith or believes. Look at Iran and see what is happening on a daily basis.
People like Mastica wants to have a Teheran-on-sea and an Islamic Republic in Lebanon. When they deny it, they are using their Taqqiya to lie.

Missing peace 18:01 ,2015 كانون الثاني 31

“His speech deletes the will of the Lebanese people as no side is allowed to make decisions on behalf of the the state authority and the citizens,”

nothing wrong with this apart for M8ers who do not recognize any state or government of Lebanon... their state is hezbollah but not Lebanon... they give a party the power to drag an entre nation into war with no say from the government nor the people and even less from the army they pretend to support out of pure hypocrisy... and they find it totally legitimate... it is treason pure and simple...

Thumb cityboy 18:29 ,2015 كانون الثاني 31

did you forget about the bread and blankets to syria.

Missing peace 19:16 ,2015 كانون الثاني 31

sure, bread and blankets can compare to entire units of armed gunmen ... LOL you cannot compare what one man did to an entire hezbi combat unit...sure blankets have helped greatly the FSA, it was so threatening to your friend bashar...LOL so please, find other better excuses to justify the presence of hezbis in syria against the will of the lebanese people....

Thumb liberty 05:14 ,2015 شباط 01

cityboy;
are you filling in for mowaten on weekends?

Default-user-icon JCWilliams (ضيف) 18:02 ,2015 كانون الثاني 31

Mustaqbal isn't targeted , killed by Israeli gunships . They like Israel a lot. Nasrallah's speech wasn't hasty at all. He had to make some kind of response. Saniora should retire. The suit's words are less reflective of the people than the bearded wonder's. If the people vote freely Aoun becomes President. I doubt he would agree with Saniora..

Thumb nickjames 18:54 ,2015 كانون الثاني 31

Dahyeboy: "Israel could barely get a few kilometers into lebanon and you want us now to believe that they were estimated to be near beirut sooner than later."

- Loooool Hareb Tammouz was a fake war between Israel and Hezbollah, who share the common goal of keeping Lebanon weak. You really believe the Israeli army with 175,000 active soldiers, thousands of tanks, hundreds of fighter jets, and warships (the IDF dwarfs Hezbollah's 25,000 men and unguided missiles), couldn't march to Beirut?? All I gotta say is when there was a political will, like in 1982, Israel marched from the border to Beirut in two weeks.

You think because the IDF lost 120 soldiers, it was a war??? They are like the first pawns being removed off the chessboard, before Israel and Hezbollah agreed to end the game because all the coffee spilled on the board.

Thumb nickjames 18:56 ,2015 كانون الثاني 31

(the coffee being spilled on the board ya3ne Lebanon was in rubble of course, I'm sure you knew what I meant)

Thumb cityboy 19:21 ,2015 كانون الثاني 31

nickyjamie, israel could barely tolerate 33 days of war with HA, you want us now to believe it could have easily made it to Beirut. Are you sure you were following the same war.

Thumb nickjames 19:54 ,2015 كانون الثاني 31

Looooooool at your idiocy, I'm starting to think I shouldn't make fun of you because you're a Dahye boy and can't help but believe a group of terrorists are capable of standing up when none of the Arab states (Syria, Egypt, Jordan) were humiliated by Israel in three wars. Keep dreaming Dahyeboy....lol

Thumb nickjames 19:55 ,2015 كانون الثاني 31

when all*** of the Arab states were humiliated by Israel

Thumb scorpyonn 19:55 ,2015 كانون الثاني 31

Hezbollah is a mirror of its masters in Iran. They have no voice and are puppets on a string. The irony is that all of these clowns on this system who support them believe blindly what they are told and don't question anything. It is a pity that in this day and age we have such an ignorant and illiterate group of Lebanese paying homage to Iran.

Missing mansour 02:47 ,2015 شباط 01

Arabs were not humiliated by Israel....They won there devine Victory and Israel has been on a back foot since.

Long Live The Syrian Civil War!