French Officers in Lebanon to Train Army

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A high-ranking French military delegation is expected to arrive in Beirut on Friday to commence training of Lebanese army personnel on the use of weapons to be delivered by Paris under $3 billion Saudi grant.

According to al-Joumhouria newspaper, the delegation will stay in Lebanon for a long time as the “deal requires a specialized follow up by France.”

A military source told the daily that “Paris is keen to deliver the Lebanese army the requested arms in accordance with its staunch support to Lebanon and an international decision to boost the capabilities of the military.”

The source noted that the “Saudi grant is in the process of implementation after the army and the French company that is in charge of delivering arms to Lebanon finalized the deal.”

The source pointed out that “the arms delivery will extend to a three-year period.”

On Wednesday, a meeting was held in Yarze between Army Commander General Jean Qahwaji and a prominent official from the French company ODAS, which is in charge of promoting defense sales in Saudi Arabia, and the accompanying delegation.

A military source said in comments to al-Mustaqbal newspaper that a “specialized committee was formed from the two sides to coordinate the arming of the military institution.”

“The arms that the French company will deliver to Lebanon are new and not used.”

The source continued: “The zero-hour to equip the Lebanese army began on March 2.”

Saudi Arabia in 2013 announced it would give the Lebanese army $3 billion to purchase weapons and equipment from France.

In August, the kingdom offered another $1 billion in funds to allow the army to purchase supplies immediately.

Several allies of Lebanon pledged to step up efforts to bolster its armed forces as the threat from jihadists in the region grows.

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Comments 70
Default-user-icon merkin (Guest) 20 March 2015, 07:46

1 billion dollars yea right. Where is that 1 billion dollars or the 3 billion dollars promised over a year ago. Stop embarrassing yourself dude.

Thumb _mowaten_ 20 March 2015, 11:21

Mabrouk Lebanon! With $3Bn's worth of training, all our soldiers will now learn french!

Thumb marcus 20 March 2015, 12:25

some people are bitter the LAF are getting stronger

Default-user-icon CFTC (Guest) 20 March 2015, 12:27

@mowaten E-X-C-E-L-L-E-N-T. Still laughing. Thank you

Default-user-icon CFTC (Guest) 20 March 2015, 12:40

@mowaten I am STILL laughing. Thank you thank you

Thumb freedomarch 20 March 2015, 12:43

Bon jour, smile you are on French fries training list.

Thumb -phoenix1 20 March 2015, 12:49

Mowaten, better speak French than Farsi. I bet you, if you were given half a chance to hold a French passport, you would have jumped at the very thought. I still see no queues at the Iranian embassy, but I see them at the French, UK and US embassies and guess who are most of the applicants?

Thumb justin 20 March 2015, 12:57

and he votes himself up 14 times. Pathetic!

Thumb ex-fpm 20 March 2015, 13:10

the stronger and better equipped the LAF gets the more the resentment of those who claim to support the LAF. The truth is as clear as the sun on a summer's day: they are happy to see the LAF weak and under equipped. They are only loyal to their sectarian militia which they call "resistance". Their resistance is resisting the state, the army, and civil peace.

Thumb _mowaten_ 20 March 2015, 13:17

lol phoenix, if only you knew...
besides, it was a frigging joke, your whole debate about which is better french or farsi, is completely irrelevant. if anything let's compare what is better, 3Bn$ worth of french training, or 3Bn$ worth of iranian weapons? even if what they have is less advanced than french ones, at least they would give us the best they have without restrictions.

Thumb ex-fpm 20 March 2015, 13:30

so now it is $3 billion worth of training? Is that your latest propaganda? You start a lie, you embellish on it, and then you start believing yourself. Shameless!

Thumb -phoenix1 20 March 2015, 13:38

My friend @inibriated is indeed a kind man, now offering me a glass or Israeli drink. By the way, what is the life of a troll, who has to created numerous fake accounts to blast a Forumite who doesn't sing music to him, doesn't that sound eerily like some people we already know? What is the life of a person who feels that by attempting to ridicule another person wins him the day? The trouble with such trolls is that they don't notice that they also lost the night, then make a very bad start to the coming day. Just have a life, one is quite enough.

Default-user-icon report.man aka mowaten (Guest) 20 March 2015, 13:38

I don't vote myself up. I just enjoy my comments so much. I read my comments 15-20 times and look in the mirror and give myself the thumbs up!

Thumb -phoenix1 20 March 2015, 13:43

Mowaten, just how many times are we to repeat to you that the $4BN deal is done, that the arms have started to come, that the training too is now coming. Mawaten, you are educated and you know that such massive deals take time to seal, that so much protocol have to be taken care of, that every single item has to be inventoried and closely monitored, the donors as the donees know of that insidious infiltration possibility, could be Hezbollah infiltration, IS, you call it, they've taken that into consideration. If the Saudis are the donors, it doesn't make them the bad guys now, the deal is done and there's nothing at Hezbollah incorporated that you can do. In such a case, the Iranian deal did not come through, and I bet you, if we signed with Iran, Iran would have taken that very same route of caution except the caution will be levied at different quarters, maybe on us the LF, who knows judging by your level of routine attack over this arms deal?

Thumb Mystic 20 March 2015, 13:50

The Saudis are the same ones that sponsors the takfiris, that beheaded the Lebanese soldiers phoenix. They are the bad guys, and it is a huge shame to see our Army waiting for these Wahabis to pay up.

We should not let our army be dragged around like this, they should be supported ASAP, the Gulf/west countries likes to drag on the LAF captives aswell as the weapons and donations.

Thumb Mystic 20 March 2015, 14:33

Yes texas, I should remember. You being pro-saudi ofcourse means you are an anti Qatari. To people that doesn't know, the Qatari and Saudi Governments are having a private war with each other, Qatar supporting the Muslim Brotherhood Morsi, while the Saudis supports the Sisi coup.

How could I forget about that, texas you should remember about the Qataris, Turkish, and Saudis cooperation against Syria in 2011.
The Qataris are just as bad as the Saudis in my opinion.

Al Jazeera & Al Arabiya were sprewing the same words back then.

Default-user-icon CFTC (Guest) 20 March 2015, 14:55

I am still laughing @mowaten !!! I know your comment was more than 4 hours ago, but I cannot help myself. So so so funny!

Thumb chrisrushlau 20 March 2015, 17:17

No, all we can hope for is that they will learn to wear their berets in the civilized fashion.
Seriously, the French are doing their best to provide a target-rich environment.

Default-user-icon flamethrowerbemoss (Guest) 20 March 2015, 07:49

loooooooooooooool 7elwe mennak @merkin

Default-user-icon Je Suis Flamethower (Guest) 20 March 2015, 07:53

Je suis Flamethrower, Je suis alaouite, Je suis un terroriste

Missing humble 20 March 2015, 07:54

Ebola is a "resistance"? Sure. It is resisting against the building of our Army.

Thumb Mystic 20 March 2015, 08:29

Would be better to see some Iranian commanders training the LAF. Then we would have a real strong army.

Missing humble 20 March 2015, 08:35

I pity you each and every time I read your comments.

Thumb Mystic 20 March 2015, 08:52

I laughed when you wrote "norma.jean help!"

Default-user-icon Phil (Guest) 20 March 2015, 09:27

The Iranian revolution will never reach Lebanon. Not in a million years.

Thumb justin 20 March 2015, 10:21

@phil
It does not need to reach Lebanon because it is already here. You have one million people in Lebanon who worship the ayatollah and consider Iran their homeland.

Thumb barrymore 20 March 2015, 09:13

so after months of intense propaganda, there remains nothing to refute or doubt. Therefore, they call for iranian commanders to train our LAF. !!!

Thumb Mystic 20 March 2015, 09:42

The weapons did not even arrive yet. So I do not understand you peoples enthusiasm, they describe the weapons as "new" yeah sure, we will see if it arrives.

Article here also confirms, “the arms delivery will extend to a three-year period.”

Yeah sure, we've heard that for quite sometime now. Yet we still have you people waiting to gnaw on the bones of France & Saudi Arabia, bones that never gets transferred.

Default-user-icon jaaar ibn iblees (Guest) 20 March 2015, 10:30

is that a martyred jihadi iranian terrorist familia in techno color in your avatar?

Thumb Mystic 20 March 2015, 13:35

Didn't you among others, type that these weapons would arrive in January? Never happend, they talk the talk these people, never walks the walk. Sorta like you do texas.

Thumb Mystic 20 March 2015, 14:33

It's funny when I expose your lies, I suddenly become a liar according to you.

Sure texas, i'm the liar. You are the one and only truth here, especially when it concerns Saudi Arabia, the IDF and U.S Army.

Thumb -phoenix1 20 March 2015, 12:39

Mystic you're having serious problems hiding your hostility towards the Lebanese Army's progress into becoming the well-equipped army that it deserves to be, the army that we deserve to have. I am sure that you need to be right inside those weapons containers that are arriving to Beirut to accept facts. Then what the heck would Iranians bring us but indoctrination and their lack of impartiality? Would I trade first-class training for Falafel type training? Fact is dear Mystic, you and your side are now in a deep malaise, we all know that an army on the rise means clearly militias in decline till that fateful day comes when you will realize that the trade-off done with uncle Sam and Iran was all about raising the stakes for some and breaking the bank for others. The army is indeed on the rise and Hezbollah is in decline, let's face it bro.

Thumb Mystic 20 March 2015, 13:01

Hostility towards the French and Saudis phoenix. If you read my comment otherwise, then it is not hard to spot your Geagea oriented feelings. Which indeed are the same as in the civil war.

When my kids goes to study, I put their lives in the hands of God, and the Lebanese Army. What I wish for, is the Lebanese army to get support from Iran, the same way the Resistance gets it. That way we would have the most powerful army in the Middle East. The West or Saudis are not going to provide us with that sort of power Phoenix.

I know you do not like this idea, because of your Pro-Western stances, but it is you who should face something, aslong as we take weapons exclusively from the Western and Wahabi nations, then the army will remain weak indeed.

Thumb -phoenix1 20 March 2015, 13:10

Mystic, your Ayatollah Khomeini was given refuge in France for years. Iran even throughout the years it kept cold on the US was having rather warm relations with France to the point where the US had to make the point with French companies dealing with Iran, to little avail. True, I am an LFer, but you never complained when I stand by Hezbollah on so many issues, except when I am in support of the Lebanese State and the army and worst of all, when I criticize Hezbollah, I suddenly become to you a Pro-Everything that you dislike. Have I now taken anti-Saudi stands here and still do? But when Saudi takes good decisions, shall we criticize blindly? The only Pro I am is Lebanon, I fought for this and not for anything else, should you be in my way, then I will have to confront you too.

Thumb -phoenix1 20 March 2015, 13:11

**Have I NOT taken anti-saudi...**

Thumb Mystic 20 March 2015, 13:21

Phoenix, it is not a big secret. That the LF nowadays, gets heavy funding from Saudi Arabia. Which means, by biting the hands that feeds you, makes you a hypocrit Phoenix.

It is not a big secret neither, that the LF was betrayed by the U.S and Israel, when they all withdrew from Lebanon. Leaving you people to die that is, but you didn't die now did you?
The LAF is not the LF phoenix, you must understand that. Yes the LF is made out of soldiers during the civil war, because they deserted the national army in that time.

That you now write, that you want to fight me for typing these facts, amuses me very much my friend. You should not let emotions get to you people, I think that is why the LF are weak this day.

Thumb -phoenix1 20 March 2015, 13:52

Mystic, are you in truth a propagandist? Bro, at times you baffle me. You do have that uncanny way of twisting facts. Am I a hypocrite, hell NO, otherwise I wouldn't be so advocative in my life. Saudi does not finance us the LF but Mustaqbal our political allies, we have many legal ways to finance ourselves trust me. Then in the war, when our Muslim brother deserted the army, taking with him the tanks and weaponry, where do we go? Sure, when your side was wailing day and night, Al Mowt Ilal Kafirin, Ilal In3izaliyin, when you were massacring our people and burning their churches, side by side with the Palestinians and Syrians, were you expecting us to kneel? No Mystic, we do NOT kneel we fight and we will do it again if we had to. Mystic, make a small effort NOT to hide historical facts because here you'll not move an inch. Your side is as guilty as our side, simple and period, do not exonerate yourselves at our expense.

Thumb Mystic 20 March 2015, 14:26

My so called side, never burned churches phoenix. If you looked at the war in neighbouring Syria, you would see the Resistance fighters are actually guarding Assyrian churches overthere.

Phoenix, I believe that you do not actually know what is going on around here. Maybe because you live outside. Those takfiris at our borders, are the ones that will burn our churches and mosques if they reach further into Lebanon.

You should rather care about that, instead of fantasising about fighting the Resistance. When the LF fought the Palestinians, the resistance did not exist back then. People that knows about the civil war and studied it, can also confirm that.

Thumb freedomarch 20 March 2015, 12:44

Bring us the good stuff, the road is open now.

Thumb freedomarch 20 March 2015, 13:12

No. I LIKE your Idea Mystic. JUST show us the money.... Show us the dam money..The Money! All what I see instead of lebanese army getting stronger as you are "wishing" iran's top leaders no2 to be exact is claiming us part of his Empire.

Thumb -phoenix1 20 March 2015, 13:46

Nah, in our case I've seen them train Hezbollah and Hamas, and when the going gets tough, only Lebanese and Palestinians are left on the ground to fight it out with Israel. No thanks, but no thanks ya khaye.

Thumb EagleDawn 20 March 2015, 09:23

But the incredible flamethrower said the arms will not be delivered until a M14 president is elected?

..-flamethrower-.

"France is currently discussing with Lebanon the delivery of arms to the Lebanese military under a $3 billion Saudi grant."
another M14 lie in the light of what KSA said: they will not activate the grant without an (M14) president."

Default-user-icon Mark (Guest) 20 March 2015, 09:52

the French promised us freedom from colonialism for years, and took their time.
why should i believe them now, this topic has been in talks for years now.
i will be happy when they deliver, not when they talk.

Default-user-icon _mowaten_ (Guest) 20 March 2015, 10:15

hi Mark i see you have a new alias, yet speak like an old timer of this forum. could it be that you're a troll posting under different names every time? could it?

Thumb justin 20 March 2015, 10:20

"this topic has been in talks for years now. "

You certainly love to exaggerate. The military grant was announced in December 2013; that means one year and 3 months.

Missing peace 20 March 2015, 11:21

and here are southern and miss tic knowing better than the lebanese army itself..... better military experts than the military itself...

how funny and ridiculous can they be and still digging! LOL

Thumb Mystic 20 March 2015, 11:35

Here we have peas the hag, still in the same state of hysteria. Where did the LAF comment here? This is the French and Saudis still uttering their empty promises.

Missing peace 20 March 2015, 11:41

pityful as usual you are barking here to try and look smart...

if the lebanese military deemed it useless or no good to be trained by french then why are the french coming? seems you assume the french come here on their own, no one asked them... pityful ignorants you are....

See how IDIOT you are both?

Thumb Mystic 20 March 2015, 13:09

It's hard to take you people seriously with your emotional constipation. If just the Army were allowed to take weapons from other countries abroad, like that Russian system that was denied. Then it could go much better.

We should not forget, that Lebanons whole constitution is based on secterianism @freedomarch. So pointing fingers on others for the Taef Agreement, is something very ridiculous.

Why are you so concerned about my picture on this profile? This has nothing to do with the article at hand.

Thumb Mystic 20 March 2015, 11:34

You are basically, calling for the army to be split and dissolved with this comment jack.

You might aswell call for a new civil war then.

Missing peace 20 March 2015, 11:41

no need to, hezbollah does the job perfectly....

Thumb -phoenix1 20 March 2015, 12:47

Deep at heart my dear Mystic, isn't that something you harbor? Truth is, the army is now getting the attention it deserves, then, if it was to split it would have done so years ago. Even Sayed Hassan fears an army split, even Aoun fears it, no one dares even entertain the very idea, let alone push for it. Furthermore, the army now is well glued together.

Thumb Mystic 20 March 2015, 13:04

God forbid, a new civil war in Lebanon. We are barely living off the scars of the last one.

Yes indeed an army split would be castrophobic for Lebanon, which is why comments like this guy lebjack produced, are a very dangerous game to play.

By the way Phoenix, we should not forget whom dissolved the army during the last civil war, right?

Thumb -phoenix1 20 March 2015, 13:17

Mystic, sorry to sound sectarian albeit if for a few minutes. Who split the army back then when the civil war started but the Muslims of Lebanon? Why did the Lebanese State move its most sensitive constitutional institutions to that area then known as Free Lebanon or East Beirut? Who kept somehow state institutions running, even if in limping state? I am sorry my dear brother, (and you know that I am sincere with you as a sibling), the Lebanese Muslim, be he Shiite or Sunni took his decision to side with Yasser Arafat and his PLO mostly if not purely based on sectarian assumptions, even Jombie the junkie said so only a few years ago about his sentiments. Everyone felt that the Christians of Lebanon would stand for not more than a few days or weeks at most, no one could even wildly imagine that we could stand for so many years, till that sob Aoun came to destroy it all. This is one area where you have nothing on Geagea who is not a sold out like your peers. Sorry again.

Thumb Mystic 20 March 2015, 13:30

Phoenix my dear friend, Geagea sold himself to the Wahabi kingdom. That you do not recognize that, is really a pity.
Geagea would even align himself with takfiris, if they came to take over Lebanon.

The war between the LF and the Palestinians, were so dirty. That it made the whole country burn.
I for one, do not see Yasser Arafat as a saint, neither do I see any Lebanese Forces leaders as saints, because they were real dirty childkillers in that time.

By stating that the LF were the sole defenders of the Christians, is yet another lie Phoenix. The LF killed many Christians aswell.

Default-user-icon + oua nabka + (Guest) 20 March 2015, 11:56

they came here the French to teach our LAF how to use future weapons to be delivered !!!!?? I think our soldiers should go to france where they can try physically these weapons to be delivered
god bless democracy

Default-user-icon CFTC (Guest) 20 March 2015, 13:04

@oua nabka, very good point. The french 'instructors' are a bunch of spies for their colleagues on the other side of the border (daesh). Don't worry our army is well aware.

Default-user-icon CFTC (Guest) 20 March 2015, 12:41

I cannot stop laughing at mowaten's E-X-C-E-L-L-E-N-T comment:)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

Thumb -phoenix1 20 March 2015, 12:41

The French also gave refuge for Ayatollah Khomeini for years when the Shah of Iran ruled, lest you forgot ya Southern.

Thumb barrymore 20 March 2015, 14:46

you don't care about iran? lol lol lol.

Thumb freedomarch 20 March 2015, 12:49

We are all freinds with your Iran meeting with USA so who is closer to Israel? Peace.

Default-user-icon speakteezly (Guest) 20 March 2015, 12:59

excellent point you make right there @speakfreely

Thumb freedomarch 20 March 2015, 13:03

They bring armed cougers / super puma like and will rearm existing Gazels, we will get the atack helis from The USA Hue II and the H56 plus the Super Tocanos, News are comming abut 6 F5 Tiger II Pckage - US RESERVE in Jordan.

Thumb -phoenix1 20 March 2015, 13:21

The brand new Super Tocano deal is now seemingly sealed, here we're talking of at least 25. Then the F5 Tiger 2 is in the works, by most estimates the army will get them. The funny thing is that in the FPM's forum, the Orange Room, everyone is very critical of the weapons deal, calling it by many adjectives, but it won't hide the fact that the Lebanese Armed Forces have now proven that only it can hold the nation and certainly not Aoun the claoun, nor Sayed Hassan and his mercenary militia, no one, but the Army, period. The world is now seeing better, simple.

Thumb ex-fpm 20 March 2015, 13:36

amazaing indded @phoenix! I could never understand people of this nature. As if we are paying for these weapons in the first place. Second, we're talking about $4 billion worth of arms/training/logistics! It is just pure hatred and jealousy; unfortunately a long standing Lebanese trait.

Thumb -phoenix1 20 March 2015, 14:01

@inebriated, you are an old drum, familiar sound again. Use your "original" pseudonym, it does somehow elevate the entitled.

Missing Je_suis@libonase 20 March 2015, 13:37

People the Saudis don't trust the Iranians so forget about any of the military grant going to them for anything . And personallyI don't care where the weapons are sourced from and i don't see why there is an argument here we all seem to be in agreement in regards to our army being supported by all of us , in regards to the resistance i don't have a problem with them resisting the enemy israel but they still should abide by the rule of law when it comes to the lebanese state they cannot be a law unto themselves otherwise we will never progress as a nation all lebanese regardless of sect should unite as one and that being proudly lebanese first and last .

Default-user-icon wolf.the_roar (Guest) 20 March 2015, 13:41

roro, when will @wolf and @lebpatriot and lebanon.-06 post again? We miss their contribution. We appreciate your votes anyway

Thumb -phoenix1 20 March 2015, 13:58

Mystic, you more than everyone else know my lukewarm attitude towards Geagea. I will defend his positions when they are attuned to mine, and likewise will criticize him when they don't rhyme with mine. Now to anchor your argument on the LF again, using that same lame position will not take you far. You too as my Shiite brother, you too killed your fellow Shiite during the war, walaw, is that how short sighted you have become? Then you as my Shiite brother, you have also killed Sunnis, walaw? As an Lfer, when my Christian brother takes arms against me, in the name of some extremely stupid wannabe general, if he attacks me and my family, would I just look on, or warn him first then react accordingly? Mystic, your side is not pristine, very far from that, your side is as guilty as my side, so please ya habibi, if you want me to hold value to your argument, you would have to remove that borrowed cloak from your shoulder, and it's oversize too!

Thumb Mystic 20 March 2015, 14:37

Many people were killed in the civil war Phoenix, everybody were killing each other. Which made it a dirty meaningless war ofcourse. Nobody is denying that, but by typing that the LF were the sole defenders of the Christians, as you did write.

That is where I object immediately. Nothing to do with wearing a cloak Phoenix, I like honest discussions and not hypocritical ones.