Aoun Bloc Says AMAL Remarks on War, Sunni-Christian Deal 'Unacceptable'

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The Change and Reform parliamentary bloc on Tuesday dismissed accusations from Speaker Nabih Berri's AMAL Movement about an alleged “Sunni-Christian” deal as an attempt to “blackmail” the supporters of Free Patriotic Movement founder MP Michel Aoun's presidential bid.

Describing Aoun as “the nominee whose candidacy conforms with the National Pact,” the bloc boasted that the FPM founder “has become immunized with broad support” from the majority of the political parties.

“The (Oct. 16) speeches of General Aoun and (FPM chief Jebran) Bassil carried all the indications about a project to build the state with all the country's components without the exclusion of anyone,” said the bloc in a statement issued after its weekly meeting.

“The National Pact is not bilateral or tripartite but rather for everyone,” it stressed.

“Any remarks about Christian-Sunni bilateral powersharing are unacceptable and seditious and we will confront any attempt to stir sedition,” the bloc added.

And reassuring that “the project of the state” is its “unifying project,” Change and Reform stressed the importance of “passing an electoral law that ensures correct representation in line with the National Pact.”

“We do not apologize and we do not try to justify and we are walking with firm steps towards the National Pact and the Lebanon of national partnership. Those who want to support us are free to support us and those who do not want to support us are free to oppose us without launching arbitrary accusations,” the bloc added.

Earlier in the day, Berri's aide and Finance Minister Ali Hassan Khalil confirmed that the speaker's Development and Liberation bloc would “vote against” Aoun in any presidential election session.

He also noted that Berri's AMAL Movement would “join the ranks of the opposition” should Aoun be elected president.

“We see things heading to the Maronite-Sunni bilateral power-sharing of 1943 and we will confront this scenario,” Khalil added.

In remarks published Tuesday in al-Akhbar newspaper, aides to Berri had also accused Aoun and ex-PM Saad Hariri of seeking to undermine “the partnership with political Shiism that followed the Taef Accord.”

Asked whether a return to the 1943 pact would ignite a new civil war, the sources said: “That's true. What they are doing will lead to a civil war and we will fight to defend ourselves and Hizbullah!”

MP Alain Aoun of the FPM announced Monday that Hariri will announce his endorsement of Aoun “this week.”

The ex-PM has been exploring the possibility of endorsing Aoun for several weeks now and on Sunday Education Minister Elias Bou Saab of the FPM announced that Hariri has officially decided to endorse Aoun's presidential bid.

Lebanon has been without a president since the term of Michel Suleiman ended in May 2014 and Hizbullah, Aoun's Change and Reform bloc and some of their allies have been boycotting the parliament's electoral sessions, stripping them of the needed quorum.

Hariri launched an initiative in late 2015 to nominate Marada Movement chief MP Suleiman Franjieh for the presidency but his proposal was met with reservations from the country's main Christian parties as well as Hizbullah.

The supporters of Aoun's presidential bid argue that he is more eligible than Franjieh to become president due to the size of his parliamentary bloc and his bigger influence in the Christian community.

Comments 41
Thumb justin 18 October 2016, 18:09

Where is tric.portugal now:)) will he tell us about the hariri-daeshi-mecca not wanting his supreme christian leader. I don't know why i remembered him:)

Missing humble 19 October 2016, 00:51

Tric Trav was only a fake name...

Thumb enterprise 18 October 2016, 18:12

I think the masks have finally fallen :

18 August 2014: Berri denied that holding the presidential elections needed a Sunni-Shiite dialogue, saying “the problem is not with Muslims.”

“Let the Christians agree,” the speaker was quoted as saying by his visitors.

http://www.naharnet.com/stories/en/143670

Thumb ice-man 18 October 2016, 18:15

Allah, Nassralah, Aoun W'bass !!!!

Thumb shab 18 October 2016, 19:25

lol

Thumb liberty 18 October 2016, 19:56

:))

Thumb barrymore 18 October 2016, 18:40

will aoun accept being elected by an illegal and illegitimate parliament?

Thumb oompa.loompa 18 October 2016, 18:49

Berri was reiterating what Nasrallah has said about involving him, Frangieh and the rest of the allies in the Hariri agreement although more bluntly but the C&R block guys were as usual too afraid to respond to the "supreme leader".

Remember this gem less that a week ago:
Nasrallah warned that there are parties that are trying to “take advantage of the presidential developments to sow discord between Hizbullah and the FPM and between Hizbullah and the AMAL Movement and the Marada Movement.”

But ya Hassan who are those parties trying to sow discourse and where are you from what Berri said today? Also in Berri's civil war will you be on the side of the Legitimacy and the FPM president or on the side of Berri?

Thumb AdamkaZarkil 18 October 2016, 19:05

The taqiyah always gets exposed. Shiites usually use their taqiyyah on the orthodox Muslims (sunnis) but in lebanon it's also heavily been used on christians and many christians fell for it just like many Muslims fall for it.

Yalla mystic waynak? How will you appear this time? As a maronite? Hehehehe

Thumb .mowaten. 18 October 2016, 22:41

i dont see what you're trying to say. taqqiyah means allowing to hide your religion if it would lead to you being persecuted and/or killed (and it exists for all muslims not just shiites).
but trying to figure out your comment, are you saying that shiites are not telling christians they are shiites? how is that relevant? how does that make sense?

Missing CFTC 18 October 2016, 22:55

Bold and Factual as ever
@mowaten
What can one say, another E-X-C-E-L-L-E-N-T comment. I particularly enjoyed the part where you said "(and it exists for all muslims not just shiites)"
Thank you for making our lives so much better.
Thank you
Still laughing since January 2015.

Thumb .mowaten. 19 October 2016, 02:13

"Taqiya (Arabic: تقیة‎‎ taqiyyah/taqīyah, literally "prudence, fear, caution") is an Islamic term referring to precautionary dissimulation or denial of religious belief and practice in the face of persecution.

This practice is emphasized in Shia Islam whereby adherents are permitted to conceal their religion when under threat of persecution or compulsion. However, it is also permitted in Sunni Islam under certain circumstances.

Taqiyya was initially practiced under duress by some of Muhammad's Companions. Later, it became particularly important for Shias due to their experience as a persecuted religious minority."

Why use buzzwords when you don't know what they mean? Think it makes you sound cool and informed?

Thumb .mowaten. 19 October 2016, 05:08

you trolls keep whining about the fact that i'm an atheist, let me make this clear: i dont give a duck what you think. i am against your lies and sectarian incitement, your fake claims and rotten propaganda, and i dont need to belong to any sect for that.

Thumb liberty 19 October 2016, 05:20

At 5 in the morning Sleepless in Dahieh once again. Do you ever sleep?!

Pathetic!

Thumb liberty 19 October 2016, 05:33

of course you do give a duck and more: you posted 7 hours ago, 5 hours ago, 3 hours ago and just now. That is for sure a sign of someone who does not give a duck.

Thumb justin 19 October 2016, 08:06

wow mowaten! 3an jad when do you sleep or take a break from the forum!

Thumb galaxy 19 October 2016, 09:48

i read this article an hour ago before mowaten got his comment deleted showing he was posting at 4 in the morning:)))

Thumb .mowaten. 19 October 2016, 17:46

trolls will speak of everything except the points that matter.

Thumb Puppet 18 October 2016, 23:08

I respect Mr. Mowaten for his thorough understanding of the Muslim faith despite the fact he is religiously independent.

Thumb .mowaten. 19 October 2016, 00:10

all it takes is a google search, not everyone is happy being as ignorant as you.

Thumb liberty 18 October 2016, 19:56

not so fast @texas not so fast.

Thumb galaxy 18 October 2016, 20:36

19:56mtv: ارسال جنبلاط لوفد من "اللقاء الديمقراطي" الى عين التينة هو ربما للقول لبري "اننا نقف معك في التصعيد".

Thumb galaxy 18 October 2016, 20:38

"الجديد": الحريري أبلغ كتلة "المستقبل" انه سيتبنى ترشيح العماد عون للرئاسة وانه سيتشاور مع كل نائب في الكتلة على حدة في هذا الموضوع.

Thumb warrior 18 October 2016, 21:00

the cards are on the table: after accusing hariri of obstruction for the last 2 years and using the FPM to pour their hatred on Hariri and who he represents, reality sets in now and we see who really does not want aoun. Spearheading the rejection of aoun are junblatt and berri while hezbollah sits on the sidelines letting his other half and partner in crime berri threaten of civil war.

Thumb .mowaten. 18 October 2016, 22:42

Maybe it is time, I dont know what Berri's problem is here and why he is throwing a fit... pretty disappointing

Thumb justin 18 October 2016, 23:22

it has to be the only time I read that mowaten does not know something:)

Thumb .mowaten. 19 October 2016, 00:09

anonyme go take your pills, i'm not interested in reading your rants

Thumb .mowaten. 19 October 2016, 02:14

Oh thanks anonyme! I was looking for a spokesperson of the FPM, seems like you're the perfect FIT

Thumb liberty 19 October 2016, 04:21

When it was Hariri who did not want aoun, mowaten of iran wrote poems, books, essays about why hariri did not want aoun ranging from his saudi roots, to regional and global events, all the way to hariri's financial problems never forgetting his life long sectarian hate for hariri. All of a sudden when Berri does not want aoun, the troll innocently says "I dont know what Berri's problem is here".

Taqqiyah at its best.

Go ask your hezb of terror and iran and you will know.

Thumb walid121 19 October 2016, 06:52

.mowaten. I'm not a big poster here but I have been using this site for over 40 years and recently I have been liking your posts, you're the only one informing these deluded ignorants. :)

Default-user-icon the_roar (Guest) 19 October 2016, 07:51

mowaten, FT, and I (the_roar) are the 3 most informative posters on naharnet by 3 country miles. We are different yet similar and people are jealous of us because we are smart.

Missing humble 19 October 2016, 00:54

Taqqiyah means hiding the truth on all and any subject to convey disinformation

Thumb .mowaten. 19 October 2016, 02:08

no, that's simply called "lying", no need to use buzzwords, especially when you dont know their meaning.

Thumb .mowaten. 19 October 2016, 02:10

Taqiya (Arabic: تقیة‎‎ taqiyyah/taqīyah, literally "prudence, fear, caution")[1][2] is an Islamic term referring to precautionary dissimulation or denial of religious belief and practice in the face of persecution.[3][4][1][5] Another term for this concept, kitmān (lit. "action of covering, dissimulation"), has a more specific meaning of dissimulation by silence or omission.[6][7]

This practice is emphasized in Shia Islam whereby adherents are permitted to conceal their religion when under threat of persecution or compulsion.[3][8] However, it is also permitted in Sunni Islam under certain circumstances.[9][10]

Taqiyya was initially practiced under duress by some of Muhammad's Companions.[11] Later, it became particularly important for Shias due to their experience as a persecuted religious minority.[8][12]

you can thank me later

Thumb liberty 19 October 2016, 04:14

the iranian practices taqiah both in politics and religion. On one hand, he is the most sectarian anti sunni creature the world has known and claims he is an atheist to hide his true feelings. In politics, he tries but fails miserably to hide the truth, distorts it, and puts a spin on everything to make it suit his farsi roots.

He has been caught a 1000 times choking with his lies and propaganda not to mention his daily fake accounts.

Thumb liberty 19 October 2016, 04:31

As to persecution it is centuries old taqiah practice. They have been on a rampage of killings and bloodshed for centuries and claim to be the victims. They are massacring people in Syria and they say "we are oppressed". They are liberating Mosul because they are oppressed and want to kill the descendants of yazid. In lebanon they have a criminal militia that does what it wants and when it wants and they say "we are oppressed"

Thats is taqqiah not persecution.

Thumb AdamkaZarkil 19 October 2016, 04:38

Lol mowaten. You sound like a shia. Didn't you try to pass of as an atheist with christian background? What atheist goes to such length to whitewash shia lies?

In Islam, taqiyyah is to hide something while under threat. In shiaism, taqiyyah is to hide things and lie for what they consider beneficial for shiaism. An example of shiite taqiyyah is to tell a Muslim that they respect the wives and friends of the Prophet PBUH, while cursing and slandering them amongst themselves.

Don't even try to whitewash it. Taqiyyah in shiaism is deceivement and lying.

Don't come here with silly wikipedia as if it explains facts on the ground. Anyone can edit on wikipedia. Google taqiyah on taqiyah off to see an example of shiite taqiyah caught on tape.

Only a shameless liar or an ignorant fool can compare protecting ones life to deliberatly deceiving people as shiites do while thinking its halal!

Thumb liberty 19 October 2016, 04:42

عون يستعجل الحريري.. وبري يرفض إستتقباله: لا داعي لتبلغني ما أعرفه

وفي اطار هذا التصعيد، رفض بري استقبال الحريري امس، حيث كان ينوي اطلاعه على موقفه الجديد الداعم لترشيح العماد عون لرئاسة الجمهورية.وذكرت مصادر لـ”الأنباء”، ان بري ارسل الى الحريري يقول: لا داعي لتبلغني ما أعرفه.

http://www.lebanese-forces.com/2016/10/19/berri-hariri-aoun-frangieh-presidential/

Missing humble 19 October 2016, 07:47

Taqqiyah and Kitman have been so much used in past years to dissimulate the truth in politics that they have become equivalent to lying. We can see that everyday with Ebola and Iranian declarations. There is nothing to be proud of. The biggest specialists are the Alawites. They lie constantly.

Thumb zahle1 19 October 2016, 09:34

Yes I never understood why naharnet never implemented a traditional forum with moderators and PMs... I mean there are so many fake accounts you never know who is who, and who is playing games. Very frustrating. I have made posts criticizing Hariri in the past without any type of profanity, and they were deleted.

Thumb galaxy 19 October 2016, 09:42

don't worry there are enough of you who do and their comments are framed and voted up as a masterpiece.