Aoun: Some Sides Trying to Privatize Electricity Sector as They Did with Mobile Telecom. Sector

Michel Aoun
( 1933 - 20?? )
When Will It All End?

Did you guys know that Captain Francesco Schettino confessed that he learned so much by watching General Aoun and that modeled his actions after General Aoun's, true story.

“These administrations must remain under the control of the state,” stressed the MP.

This is against what every modern and thriving economy has done. I guess, keeping it under government control he can install his "followers" in positions and do them favors. Corruption in motion......

وقدم 24 انذارا - il reste le ministre responsable. s'il ne peut resoudre le probleme il doit demissioner (ce fut depuis toujours la theorie du general Aoun)

"The general management of the (electricity) sector is not corrupt, but those in power are."

I agree with Aoun he tells the truth, Minister Gebran Bassil the person in power and in charge of the electricity sector for four years is corrupt, very corrupt.

By the way wasn't the FPM 2005 electoral Orange book in favor of privatization of the electricity sector, did Charbel Nahass convince them the Mao's little red book was the better model.

وزير الطاقة أعطى 24 إنذاراً - how many kilo-watt

what ever you say general, what ever you say. too many zombies in this country

do the lebanese deserve that phenomen?i couldnt find another comment.

hardly news to comment on... but some commenters do reach new levels of whoring by overtly wishing a particular politician dead, as if once this happens, we'll wake up in paradise land

How about if the Shia simply pay for electricity instead of making the rest of Lebanon support them. Real men support their families.

They country is being bankrupted by the Shia.

The second poster is an imposter (some people really do have too much time on their hands). Anyway, Aoun is as usual correct; March 14 losers would love to get their hands on more capital; indeed, they are a bunch of filthy, corrupt fools, after all! ONE WAY TICKET!

@crookie Monster
just add "filthy zionist department" and you'll sound exactly like habal! ;)

what do you mean? that he isnt right when calling you a ho (: ????????
do u know that i once ordered a whole container of these guy fawkes masks you use as ur avatar? bought and sold my little rebel (:
bought and sold...

Nice theory Oun. The while world adopted privatization and BOT strategies and you are definitely saying they are idiots. You are indeed a communist but looks like you are still living in the 80s since communism has failed and ended back in the 90s.

Well, privatize even to the devils if this will resolve the electricity problem. We are fedup with people like you. If there was no BOT, we would have had no cell phones till today!!

great cookie , got some humor ;)

Cookie, how many hours per day you are getting electricity ?

Please hoover after your meal ;)

... more than us slash... and for free!!

Government will never fix the electricity sector like the private sector can--all government wants from the electricity sector are the revenues so they can pay more inefficient employees in other sectors. If the government really wanted to improve the electricity service, they would actually do something to prevent theft like burying lines in theft prone areas and make sure that EDL employees are allowed assess to every building hooked up to the grid.

Aoun is an idiotic tool of Hizb anyway--his statements make less and less sense.

in that case your avatar pic is irrelevant cos it features a person who died for the 10452 while you chose to bail out 'and live in dignity'. pray that your western country wont collapse so you wont have to come back groveling like a puppy. many lebanese parasites returned from the US and dubai, back to lebanon during the 2008-09 recession. parasites.

there's no electricity because aoun is being fought by generator owners who are seeing 24 hour electricity as a menace to their 'trade'. u know that 99% of generator owners are mafias with lots of political cover, do you? when people like you understand that (but i doubt), they'll appreciate the fpm's efforts.

samiam, in the same logic, enjoy your own idiotic tools in the hands of mustaqbal: geagea and co

Government should not be involved in private business. Everything should be in private business hands, even in Lebanon you can do this if it is done in a tranparent way and give people the oppurtunity to buy shares in these companies. Government controling businesses is basically Socialism, lebanon should be a capitalist free market system.

Reform. "This is against what every modern and thriving economy has done." Privatisation of national infrastructure is not occurring in china, india, brazil or the oil rich gulf. These are the "thriving" economies at the moment. Privatisation was encouraged so that big american and western multi national corporations could buy up other countries strategic infrastructure. Now that most of these buyers are chinese gov owned companies or sovereign wealth funds, the western "thriving" economies are less enthusiastic.

However, you do need competent and uncorrupted government oversight.... something greatly lacking in Lebanon.

Allah Yer7am 2a5wat shanai.

@Ado : privatization is done not just for that, your theory is the worst case.... they go to privatization because the government will have less outcome for maintenance salaries, while giving all the work to competent companies they will tax them after.... when a country could not afford to have a consequent budget , they will go to privatization.... but it doesnt suit any M8, because they will have to pay after that for the elcetricity and that is why they are against .

Do not talk Cookie about the guy in my avatar picture, you don't know him, you just pretend to love him because those sheep of FPM told you this , that they love bachir gemayel and "them" are walking in the way he draw. you are just a shame to lebanese, your actions made us leave, persecutions post war, every thursday we were taken out from our homes in pyjamas by the lebanese army to give them infos, they tortured us ... you are talking about living in dignity in lebanon ? you killed the spirit of those who died for the cause, your sided with the regimes that raped your country and your society.... and you are giving me a lesson ? go back to you meetings, ask them what you are hearing here and come back and correct us please coz appearently you beleive whta "they" say and do not beleive what others endured and lived. Retard.

This is the worst Lebanese nightmare, how long you have been in charge and the power service got worst. Lebanese dont have power across the country.
War criminals will never make thing better they will make it much more complicated

i did all that? slash, plz do us a favor and shoot yourself. and stop insulting the intelligence of readers. for leaving lebanon you have only your cowardice to blame, not fpm, not plo, not hezbollah, not anyone. many ex-LF are still in lebanon. if you chose to run it's you choice. you can always come back. judging on your ignorance, you're not worth (i repeat) putting bashir gemayel's pic because you think geagea is the continuation of bashir's ideology of lebanon. for thinking like that, you show that you dont know bashir and what he died for. you're not fit to give patriotism lessons to anyone. eza chi, you can teach people about how to be a chicken.

How can an army general and a self-named leader of a whole community spends most of his time talking Business then anything else

You give to us ya cookie, i left because i want to give a better life and future to my kids, wi don't want them to be brainwashed as most of you are... you didn't do that, but you are supporting people who did that... talking about cowardice? who run away and who chose to stick to his beliefs and rot in jail for more than 10 years while the other was drinking mojitos in st trope ? you forgot ya cookie how was aounist weating shit from syrian before 2005? nw you side with them ? ya 7abibei when i was at the lebanese university we were fighting together, we were cought LF ers and Aounist and be beaten till blood comes out from every hole of our bodies from syrian mokhabarat backed by lebanese army, now you are defending them... you side with them while we sticked to our cause and beliefs ? who is the coward ?

your price is 100 $ you sold everything and sorry Cookie i don't want to offer such a siociety to my kids so i prefer to leave and let you rot in your shit. We do not have a cause any more. Bachir died and god bless his soul and people like you sold his blood to his killers and sold the dignity of our people to their reappers.

you want patriotism, your leaders killed every man who talked about freedom, independance... they killed every free man who tried to work for the sake of the lebanese society ... now you want to convince me that Aoun is working for that ? if he wanted to do that well he wouldn't have accepted that pierre/jobran/... been killed. always hide the truth and try to pass for the poor little thing that wants to save our lebanon and our people while all you do is pass for another dilusional blinded lunatic. you hate lf and i understand, you can not accept people with pride and honor. you should "shoot yourself"

In 1998 I was abducted and tortured for 3 days by the syrian moukhabarat because as students we decided to stand up for the oppression and demand that Aoun be allowed to speak and broadcasted to the Lebanese public. I jumped with Joy when I knew that Aoun is coming back to Lebanon after being exiled to France. The minute he landed I felt ashamed at what an idiot I as days pass by I feel disgusted at what a traitor Aoun turned out to be. His interest was and never will be Lebanon ... he just wants what's best for his entourage ... inno in all the FPM tayyar, there is no one more capable than his idiotic son in law? khalsouna ba2a ... kellon 2ortet nessabeen w thieves. HE is just angry that the private sector will not deal with an idiot like him and as such he wont get his cut!

ya Aoun (mesh 3am ykoun ili nafas to call u Mon General anymore) ... remember what you used to tell us: ya sha3ba Lobnan al 3azeem.
We are a great nation, much greater than some of the idiots who post here, just let us be and keep an ounce of dignity and stop insulting us on daily basis. I cry when I remember what an idol you were to many of us and what a shame you have become.
Now on the topic, nothing will make the electricity a profit earning source as long as thousands refuse to comply with the rules and pay their dues.
The mafia that are being referred to are the same mafia that are setting up their own telecom lines. Grow some grey matter and start thinking ya Cookie.

i'm not convincing u of anything. you made your choices. live with them. you're not the only one who got beaten/incarcerated by moukhabarat in university years. people like 'halaktouna', friends i know, got imprisoned and beaten but they remained with aoun or LF because they believed. they r fpm or LF activists now, not sissies who hide their scars. then you say 'your leaders killed, your leaders midre chou'... do you know who my leaders are? you like having preconceived ideas of people u talk to. the new society u're in, conditions you to have these misconceptions. your 'cause' is dead because you never had one, or u were fighting for the wrong cause. it's you who are worthless for pricing people. i dont speak your language. what do you know about 'people like me'? erroneous ideas, constructed from media BS. i'm sorry for you and your likes.

"now you are defending them..."

chill down a bit and you'll see that i'm not. now go hug some israelis

haters haters haters...... keep on hating people.... he is the one standing while your masters are away crippled and crying for other countries for money....

haters haters haters...... keep on hating people.... he is the one standing while your masters are away crippled and crying for other countries for money....

@ Slash, i once agree with what cookie said, Bachir is not the continuation of Geagea, and dont think i am with the FPM , way far from that. Bachir had a cause, charisma, conviction, leadership, bowed to no man or state, be it friendly or ennemy. Geagea is pro US and Bachir wasnt , specially when Kissinger wanted to give us as bait to the PLO and denied Bachir every right as the leader of the lebanese forces meeting with any US officials. Bachir worked a lot so that the US started understanding that a man like him is not like others, he will not bow or be broken. They accepted to see him , them made him a hero because they couldnt get rid of him and saw that he had an organised resistance and could have been useful for Israel if peace was signed. Then yet again when they saw that he wasnt going to put Israel's interest over Lebanon's , and didnt sign the treaty, they arranged with the Mossad to pull out and in coordination with the syrians, arranged his death.

@ Slash, Bachir was a legend, he was unbreakable, he lost his cousin, his daughter, and continued, visited every family of victims , even visited some Muslim lebanese officials that were against him and wounded during the war. The guy was not a saint, but whether some like him or not, or try to falsify his story, he had convictions, leadership, charisma, his words were like daggers in the heart of ennemies, and hope and strenght to his men and people of Lebanon that really wanted the Syrians and the PLO out. Geagea is not like him, will never be him , he might be organised, but he is not Bachir. Bachir's only weakness is that he wasnt scared of anything, which eventually killed him. he used to walk around the streets like if he was a nobody. he was not prudent. I blame him for letting us down like that and not protecting himself , he could have brought Lebanon to another lever.

Cookie--name something that this government does well, aside from the stealing and lying which has been going on for years by all parties. It cost the government an extra billion dollars to keep EDL running each year--sometimes you have to learn to cut your losses and move on (unless it benefits you somehow). Government has proven that it is too incompetent and corrupt to be trusted to do these tasks.

The other day I was at my grandmothers. When the power went out during a storm, my grandmother remarked on how this reminded her when she was a child and storms would knock out the electicity and she and her family would watch the lightning storm in the dark.

60 years later and guess what, NOTHING changed, and some still want the government in the electricity business.

it's not easy to achieve anything when half the parliament votes you down automatically , a bit like what happens here on this site: cliques vote down those who are not with them, even before reading their post and most of the times, without ever reading the article in question (:

the same happens in government.. pure spite.
the most important task facing this gvt is electricity and water: the opposing camp is doing all they can to prevent this gvt from having funds to reform the power grid. every decision is shot down in parliament.
power generator mafias dont want their business to stop with the revamping of the power grid so they're also fiercely fighting to to make the gvt fail. i'm not saying this is the swiss government but it's very motivated and yet it's being fought at the municipality levels and up(people just dont want their lucrative trades to stop, be it water or electricity or else).

it's the first time an fpm cabinet is in power and many are accusing it of corruption and theft and things committed by previous gvts and i find that unfair. you tried the old ones. they failed. and until 2009, we still had skyrocketing phone bills, internet was dismal and we still paid double bills for water and electricity. i know most naharnet users are conditioned to hate aoun and so they cant conceive that he could succeed, so they want him to fail as well. it's a sick mentality. let this goddamn gvt WORK. give it ur support so that they honor their promises. if they DONT, then you (AND I) have all the rights to vote them down in 2013. right?

YALLA YALLA. lebanon needs a clean up. No one knows who is the boss in this country. Like they say in the US. Too many chiefs and no indians. Each for his own and the poor lebanese is about to revolt big time. There will be more theft and crimes for survival reasons. If you cant find a job and your gov does not care what would you do? A small country that does not export anything but keeps spending will create civil wars.

@cookie : Ok cookie, stfu now ! re-read what you post and tell me if a normal balanced person can think like that !

@Skyfall : thank you for inlighting me! I knew Bachir, and i Know Geagea... they are not the same as you say. You can see from the profile picture who i prefer and to whome i would bowed. But tell me now a days politicly who you will follow ? a man that is still standing for his cause or a man just following a chair ? I told you Bashir has died and the only person that could have replaced was Pierre, god bless his soul, and they killed him.

Bachir and geagea they are from the same school, they fought together they ate together, LF after bachir took a great shock it wasn't anymore like it was before they needed a guy like Geagea to maintain, do not forget what Hbeika did to LF, do not forget what Aoun did to LF and do not forget that they were still fighting every one, and still he didn't bow to anyone, he didn't leave his guys and run away , he didn't die he went to prison, when he came back he didn't run into the syrian arms, he could have been back before long time before but he refused to go out and side with the regime that raped his country, the regime that killed his people ... so Skyfall he is not the contuinity but he is the perfect substitution to Bashir. No one can be Bachir and no one will take his place in our hearts.

Bachir and geagea they are from the same school, they fought together they ate together, LF after bachir took a great shock it wasn't anymore like it was before they needed a guy like Geagea to maintain, do not forget what Hbeika did to LF, do not forget what Aoun did to LF and do not forget that they were still fighting every one, and still he didn't bow to anyone, he didn't leave his guys and run away , he didn't die he went to prison, when he came back he didn't run into the syrian arms, he could have been back before long time before but he refused to go out and side with the regime that raped his country, the regime that killed his people ... so Skyfall he is not the contuinity but he is the perfect substitution to Bashir. No one can be Bachir and no one will take his place in our hearts.

So please your lessons give them to people like Cookie, this kid is lost, give them to mowaten who is still convinced that Iran is tolerant and got respect to murderers. not for me,they destroyed my life in lebanon because of my political affiliation, Cookie is saying that we hate him, apperarently he wasn't living in matn or Kesserwen in the 90's to see what we were living, or he was to small to feel that .

and skyfall even if i didn't do a thing, my family name was enough to endure like an active phalangist ;)

@ slash dont worry habibe we were active phalangists as well, but as you know we cannot reveil names here , but we knew bachir , and pierre ( the father ) , amine , and sami personnally. My father as well was in the BG's squad, the phalangists were a lot better than the LF, the LF after that was composed of every christian they could find , although many of us had a cause, we cannot forget we had moujrimin as well and a lot of people that stole and robbed, This happened after the creation of the Lebanese forces which had fighters from Ahrar, Tanzim, 7errass el Arz, and phalangists.

@ Slash, the lebanese forces even with Bachir were no saints, but most of them had a cause. and Bachir needed every man he could get and knew how to control them better than geagea. Dont forget a lot of people that fought with Bachir defected once Hobeika and Geagea started fighting each other, i agree Hobeika was not on the good course, but the lebanese forces as we knew it, died from this day on. I dont know about today habibe, how much men Geagea can gather but one thing i know is that they aint from Ashrafieh , they are too busy showing off with daddys car, or even Jounieh and keserwan. And whether Hezbollah is wrong or right ( and i dont support them.) they are lebanese chiite, before we fought mostly palestinians and syrians. But im not ready to kill any chiite lebanese. Let our leaders kill each other for all i care, what i would do is protect my home and family and thas it.