Report: Israel Intercepted Phone Calls between Lebanon, Bulgaria ahead of Bombing

the issue here is not if hizbushaitan did it or not: israel has decided to go for it for several reason:
- they cannot accept the iranian/hizbushaitan threat.
- they can distract attention from their inside problems
- ....
whatever, israel will not do it like the last time, and they will finish the job this time round.
so all they are doing is building their case internationally to justify this war: it does not mean hizbushaitan did it really or not....

halla2 you have a point of view , but EU is sick and tired too from Israelis and they need to finish with that, all what they care about is to end iranian hegemony over the region and take it back as a trading route , there are no ressources and the oil cannot be drilled in such political environment , the sanctions on Iran are enough , Hassan is happy with his 60000 missiles , let us see what will he do when the expiry date will come ... Syria cannot be anymore a supply road for Hezb every one knows that and they are short on money ... wait till you see hassan coming back to the others in Lebanon , Shiaa wont accept that Hassan be the reason of losing what they have now and if they do lose they will throw him ! remember they were neglicated since 1943 !

Eu will have no say in this, and the israelis are preparing for this as they know their window of opportunity to execute it is within 2 months from the US elections, whereby all contenders to the presidency can do nothing but support israel in its war to the extreme :)
so this is going to happen soon.

we'll see about that prediction geha. just remember it in two months.

geha, HA is in bed with Israel. Be assured that if Israel wanted to finish HA in 2006, they could have done it without a sweat. It is in Israel's interest to keep the region in termoil.

haha this is both sad and funny, because they probably can

Lebanon is at war with Israel.

no habibei we are only insulting FT because he has no values and no morals ... when he advocates more than half of the lebanese to be shot and dissolved in acid , you cant have respect for this worm ! Look at mowaten he is an M8 , he doesnt resort to personal attacks noone is atacking him ... by the way we are all working , even FT is working !

The problem ya big-pap is that there is a zallem et mazloum and a ghaleb et maghloub. We reject an illegaly armed party outside the authority of the state to subvert our FREE will at gunpoint and change the course of our country. M8 shimtenin fina and mkatareen because they hold the weapons that are forcing us ghasb min 3anna. I do not defend the use of insults bass dammna 3amb yighleh and there are people here who are enjoying our torment and turning up the temperature. Shifit keef? Its bad enuf to force us at gunpoint but they want to insult us and humilite us too. Mich heida el 3eib?

I bet to differ jcamerican, a lot has changed since the civil war: there is one party ruling all the others at gunpoint, against thier will and their civil liberty. This charade of play on reality must end. No one party or sect should overpower the other with the power of illegitimate weapons outside the authority and control of the state. Khalas ba2a akl hawa w'falsafeh.

i don't insult geha. you do. and here you're also lying. but actually i dont really care. are you seeking approbation?

mowaten
seeking approbation from whom? dream on.
accusing me of lying is easy: prove that I ever insulted anyone then come and accuse me.
you see even in this comment you are insulting, you cannot live without doing it.

again FT!
you prove my point each and every time.
you are an fpm thug, it is beyond you, that is all you know!
you are a lost case, and there is nothing anyone can do about you.
same goes for kortbawi, as he is trying to free samaha and his argument is he was arrested improperly :) where do you arrest a person if not at his house? what a bunch of loosers fppm are.

@mowaten, since you have taken the time to give me a courteous and sincere reply I will answer you with the same. Yes that is exaclty how 50% (at least)of us feel about the Party of God's weapons. Would there have been a Doha accord if it weren't for the party's weapons? A May 7? A 2006 war? If you are honest with yourself then you will not deny. Brother I want to debate you on my political vision and yours on even footing, sans weapons. As long your party has weapons I am affraid of you and democracy cannot be served. Without your party's weapon, we are more than 50%. We are being robbed of taking the country in the direction the majority wants to go. This is salb el mawdou3, we cannot prove to you we are the majority until your party gives its weapons to the army.

Lastly you cannot know someone is pointing a gun at our heads because you don't walk in our shoes and you are the one who's party is holding the gun. If you can't see it then you are refusing to see it and not because it is in my head. Your team is 100% in charge ghasb min 3anna whether I like or not, I admit it. But you have to admit it as well and admit that without the power of weapons, your team would not be in charge at all because we are the true majority. Thank you for your apology, I will always respect your political direction and never tayyeb la 7adan (thumbs up) who is insulting you or vice versa. I want to be civilized with you and kel akhsamnah.

i appreciate this respectful conversation we're having bandoul, even if we never end up agreeing, i will always respect you and your opinions.
i see what you mean, and without getting into many polemic details, i just want to say that we see things from different perspectives. like why i feel may 2008 started with an aggression against hezbollah (wanting to dismantle its vital communications by force), while you feel the aggression was the other way around.

about 2006, we know the war had been approved by the american congress (or senate not sure) one year before. and after the war olmert said yes, we were going to do the war ANYWAY. so for me 2006 is the very proof of the need of hezbollah weapons. israel has an eye on our waters, on our lands, on our maritime oil fields. if we are weak and they can rip us off, do you think they will abstain? just because we're "being nice" ? i dont think so

about the percentage of lebanese on either sides, here it is a matter of fact: in the 2009 elections 55% of the people voted for the m8 bloc. it's only due to the electoral law that this translated into a parliamentary majority for m14. dont take my word for it, look it up in the CIA's world fact book for instance.
so if we talk of democracy and majority, it is normal that m8 be ruling. especially that the parliamentary majority also shifted last year constitutionally. miqati decided to change sides, nobody forced him. joumblat changed sides, do you think anyone can force him to anything? they decided freely, and the other side should accept.
in the next elections in the majority change it will be something else, but for now it is m14 who refused to participate in govt, and are doing nothing but antagonizing themselves.

finally, and maybe that is the most important thing i want to say: i understand that the idea that hezbollah has weapons (even though everyone has weapons, it is true hezbollah has more) bothers you. it is legitimate for you to oppose that. but what you must also see, is that the people of the south feel they have, not a gun, but F16s, mirkavas & battleships pointed to their heads. they feel if they drop weapons they will go back to aggression, occupation, daily arrests & tortures and the whole horror that they went through, while the rest of lebanon didnt care. they have these as scars in their flesh, and it's not a trauma easily overcome. unless they have SERIOUS garantees for their security, they will hang on to these weapons like their lives depend on them, and they actually do! that's why one must understand, and find some sort of arrangement, where they can feel they can defend themselves, and you can feel these weapons are not here against you.

@mowaten, don't you understand that you are missing the whole point? We SHOULD be able to “provoke” the Party of God in a free society and not have to suffer armed retribution. The party leader swore an oath in front of God and country, “weapons never to be used domestically”. They have an illegal telecom and surveillance network outside of the authority of the state which the people did not consent to or sponsor and this is the heart of the matter. We can be civil to each other, I can see that but we will never be able to reach a compromise because you will not take responsibility and ownership of your Party's illegitimate actions. Why not say proudly, yes it is illegal and against the will of the people but M8 chose to support it? Mich afdal el sara7a?

also do not forget that during the clashes their were two sides, and both armed the same way (forget about the rockets and missiles which were absent, both sides had machine guns, rifles and rpgs. hezbollah did not attack civilians, but an armed militia who had be set there by those who try to disarm hezbollah. don't you see the contradiction?

provoke yes, and this is being done continuously, the provocation is incessant, and yet there is no response, no armed retribution at least.
but as i was telling you in the last paragraph of my previous answer, for hezbollah these are vital. hezbollah only emerged from israeli occupation and aggression, and their whole point is to defend themselves, and defend the country against israel. they do not care about anything else, and it is impossible for them to say okay let's drop the weapons and let israel do what they want with us.
nasrallah promised he wouldnt use the arms against the interior, yes, but he also said that the hand that would try to take their weapons would be cut. and in may 2008, the government tried to take these weapons.

do you really feel that way bandoul? i'm speaking sincerely here, if that's the way you feel then i apologize.
i dont think your vision of the reality is valid, because nobody is pointing a gun at you, it's all in your mind.
but still, if you feel like i am "enjoying" any of your torment, you are wrong, and i am sorry you feel this way.