French Judiciary Says Providing Security Agencies with Complete Telecom Data Violates Privacy

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A delegation that recently visited France to view the modern mechanisms in intercepting phone calls came back with results contradictory to what the government decided regarding allowing the security agencies to benefit from the telecom data to track crimes.

According to local newspapers published on Wednesday, French authorities pointed out that such a decision would violate the constitution and the privacy of the citizens.

Head of the Shura Council Judge Shukri Sader and several officers and telecom technicians held meetings with Lebanese officials briefing them on the information they took from French authorities regarding this matter.

As Safir newspaper reported that the competent French judiciary said that the telecom data “is part of the freedom of communication that the French and Lebanese constitutions preserve, therefore, the security agencies have no right to obtain the full telecom data.”

The daily said that the French authorities noted that the security agencies can only obtain the telecommunication data of certain phone numbers and for “justified reasons.”

The delegation also informed officials that the norms require the security agencies to explain the results they reached after analyzing the data, “if the results don’t fulfill the purpose the data was taken for then the side that demanded to acquire the data would be held accountable.”

A security source told An Nahar newspaper that obtaining the telecom data wouldn’t be useful if the Lebanese authorities didn’t consult the legal French judicial references concerning the legality of the matter in light of the developments.

The March 14 alliance has constantly demanded the cabinet to approve providing the telecom data to security agencies to uncover the security incidents in Lebanon after MP Butros Harb and Lebanese Forces Leader Samir Geagea were the targets of a murder attempts.

The government agreed on the demands of the opposition, however, President Michel Suleiman, Prime Minister Najib Miqati and the concerned ministers, judges and senior security officials decided to delegate a team to France to view the French judicial authorities’ stance over the matter.

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Thumb jcamerican 29 August 2012, 08:50

I knew France was in cahoot with the HA government. LOL

Thumb jcamerican 29 August 2012, 09:10

Why did you thumb me down then?

Thumb kesrweneh 29 August 2012, 10:16

finally some sense!! this is what FPM has been saying for months, so where are the M14 now??

Thumb kesrweneh 29 August 2012, 10:16

finally some sense!! this is what FPM has been saying for months, so where are the M14 now??

Default-user-icon Hankash (Guest) 29 August 2012, 10:35

And you idiots think that France has the same problems? Do you seriously think that the constitution was written taking into account that every two weeks there would be murder attempts on officials?
Do you know that the constitution also forbids people taking hostages? and forbids owning illegal arms? and forbids shooting in the air every time an idiot goes on TV?

Default-user-icon Fadlallah (Guest) 29 August 2012, 14:58

i refer you all to Hankash comment on this same page. if we were to compare Lebanon to France, we would never be debating around this matter for very obvious reasons.

Thumb thepatriot 29 August 2012, 15:18

@ Hankash my dear friend, FT, kerweneh, and mowath live under the illusion that we can compare ourselves to France and other civilized countries they spit on everyday only when it sounds convenient to them.
The day we will have the same human rights, judiciary system, institutions, intelligence, army (organisation wise), and civism that they have in France, then, and only then we can start comparing and debating!

Thumb thepatriot 29 August 2012, 18:54

Lol.... Who's comparing you say... But isn't it you who spit on the west and the stl, and the international judiciary system? Huh?? Now you praise French judicial references...?? LOL

Missing people-power 29 August 2012, 16:12

Hey idiot, before making blanket statements, please cite specifically which article in the LEBANESE constitution that you claim is "violated" by releasing the telecom data.

The information in this article is propaganda leaked by M8 partisans, who are collaborators with the murderers of M14 politicians and journalists. M8 claims that releasing complete telecom data violates the constitution. Presumably they are talking about the French constitution. So what?

Who cares what violated the French constitution? There's nothing in the Lebanese constitution that prevents the release of this data.

Also, more importantly, we are not asking for "complete" telecom data, in other words, telecom data on ALL phone calls in the country. We only need spoecific data relating to areas where crimes are committed. That does not violate the French or Lebanese constitution.

Missing abraham 29 August 2012, 16:38

The Truth hurts

Missing people-power 29 August 2012, 18:54

Mowaten, you have confused the Lebanese Constitution with some Telecom law. Oooops, don't you feel stupid?

Thumb lebanon_first 29 August 2012, 16:45

Yes And HA is a very delicate human rights oriented party which is concerned about privacy. This is why it resists giving the data.

Thumb thepatriot 29 August 2012, 18:49

Lol... Is it also stated in the Lebanese constitution that armed militias have the right to own and operate their own personal networks, and are permited by the same code to launch a civil war in case the state demans it is plugged off?? You guys praise the state when you run it (pretty badly I must say) and attack it when you dont entirely do! Hahaha...

Missing people-power 29 August 2012, 18:51

Mowaten, typical misinformation specialist..... claim something is "unconstitutional" but then fail to state what part of the constitution it violates.

I am still waiting for you to identify what section of the LEBANESE constitution would be violated, and you are still are an idiot.

Your fellow propagandists are trying to obfuscate this matter by fogging the interpretation of "complete" telecom data. The issue is not about asking for telecom data on "all phone calls made in Lebanon for all time". Even though this is not "unconstitutional" as you claim, that is not the crux of this matter.

When asking for "complete" telecom data, what is needed is all telecom data relating to a specific location, at a specific time frame, and relating to a specific crime. At one time, your criminal government wanted to give only partial telecom data, excluding critical information that would reveal the perpetrators of the crimes.

Thumb thepatriot 29 August 2012, 18:55

Pffffffffff.... Hahahahahaaaaa.....

Thumb thepatriot 29 August 2012, 18:58

Fine then...hahahaha... I therefore call upon my act..."the patriot act"... :)

Thumb thepatriot 29 August 2012, 19:02

Can u give us a link mowaten, the tele om law I found only has 50 Articles...

Default-user-icon horrified (Guest) 29 August 2012, 23:40

please read the article 'The daily said that the French authorities noted that the security agencies can only obtain the telecommunication data of certain phone numbers and for “justified reasons.”' it means it will be released...

Thumb thepatriot 30 August 2012, 01:05

Texas... What are you talking about?? Get back to your senses... this is a political act perpetrated by a political side to cover up crimes and crimes attempts. Get real!
Only HA have access to all data at any time & under any circumstance! Is that civilised!??
We look forward to building a Nation that could have institutions comparable to France, but we cannot have this double bind with western countries just to suit political interrests. It is grotesque!

PS: congrats to the 7 thumbs idiot that goes through the trouble of creating 7 avatars!

Thumb thepatriot 30 August 2012, 01:07

@ FT... If I'm an idiot, you're a complete retard!

Thumb thepatriot 30 August 2012, 01:08

... and you proved it on quite a few occasions :)