Geagea: Era of Settlements with Other Camp is Over, Govt. Represents the Killers

Well said Bernard

bernard the hypocrit...Assad, Hizb, Aoun, Berri and all their cronies are killers and still practicing what they do best, spreading terror in Lebanon...

Bernard, if Geagea is a mass murderer, since you found the reason to call him such, then in all fairness you ought to use that same tool to dig out the words that fit Aoun so well, Deserter and the other killer who started his war of liberation against Syria and as the LF was helping win that war, Aoun turned his guns on the LF and blew Lebanon's last chance to remove the Syrian butchers from our land. Then could you just make a comparison between the attitude of Geagea and Aoun, please mate for goodness' sake. Then on the same note, what will you call Sayed Hassan, he who started another infamous war, this time on Israel just to bail out his master in Damascus? During the civil war, Geagea was no saint, he was facing evil enemies, the fact he remains to face them in peace makes many most uncomfortable.

And what did your general did butt head?!!

Nwver betray the army is an M14 belief (not your Hezb who killed officcers and downed Helicopters "not mine"). And who are your brothers in arms.... let me guess: Qods brigade who is responsible for exporting Iran's Islamic revolution and establish welayat al-Faqih instead of the Lebanese State that every decent Lebanese dreams of? And Bachar Forces who use their Lebanese Cronies to practice terror and destruction In Lebanon? or SNP and few Dozen organizations whose sole mission is to destroy Lebanon. Tcharafna feek and in such brothers of yours.

the best response to topple the government is civil desobedience.stop paying taxes.

@bernard: How about your master Frangieh? do you remember when he entered the church in miziara before burning it down and shot everyone then ran away to Syria to hide from the Lebanese authorities and Hafez Assad protected him against the Leb Authorities.

Going through the comments, it is interesting to see how low level they are.
I honestly congratulate m8 guys especially for reaching an even lower level every day.
these guys cannot afford to comment on the substance especially when they are faced with truth, so they start lashing low level comments.
same like aoun.....
he breads them?

My dear if you are a good Christian you need to forgive. You should not forget, we should all not forget but remember that fighting, aggression, does not lead us to nowhere. Look for instance at the French and the Germans after 3 major wars (1870, 1914 and 1940) they made peace and forgave each others.

If we Lebanese do not sit together, forgive each others, and make sure that we do remember everything that happened then we can give a chance for us and our children to live in peace in this country.

Samy, please lets elevate the debate and write no insults.

he might be a killer but he is not a traitor like your masters

Mowaten, from 1975 to mid 2005, who was the sole authority in Lebanon? Who was the ONLY one who had the logistics, the power, the authority, the muscles, the will and above all, the agenda to incriminate its opponents and divide the people? Was not not by any chance Syria? Was not not the same Syria of the Al Assad clan that today is genocidal on its own people. Who could dare defy Syria's will in Lebanon then, and even now, it still intimidates so many in Lebanon. So by which credibility are you going by just to smack on Geagea any such accusations, since you know who the source of these fabrications is. Take joy man, now there are tons of documents that the Al Assads have been preventing that are now being properly cataloged, with the signature of the butchers themselves, maybe then the denials will drop like lead.

karroume, aoun and hizballah caused way more death then geagea.. so before you spew your hatred think. and just because you hate one man does not mean you ally urself with murderes and militias. get some principles man. don't follow men follow principles. i was against geagea once, now i am for him.

Kaa Kaa spilling out full blast from the sewers! Your boys (scums HA) are angels....right? They are nothing but evil!

Let us not forget what truly happened friends.

Aoun was disarming the Christian Lebanese militias,the only militias resisting the Syrian Baath Army. While Geagea fought to keep Lebanon from being handed over to Syria. Was it Geagea or Aoun's Baath buddies that bombed Lebanese schools, hospitals and homes?

Aoun and the Syrian army were bombing christian villages together, and the Syrian controlled Lebanese government jailed Geagea while they let their buddy Aoun leave for France.

Then ya Karim, Sayed Hassan has to stay thrice as long in jail for killing 1000s upon 1000s of unsuspecting victims, the knife you use to peel a potato is as good a knife to peel an orange or a lemon...

Your side Karim killed THOUSANDS also, are still killing and never spent one day in jail......... how fair is that?

gabby7 (or whatever number), how about you Hezz ya nawa3em to relax a bit? you have totally lost it, my friend. Should we throw Hezz in jail and see if they come out better men? It seems that Geagea is a much, much, much better man. Not only that, he apparently came out a much, much, much better predictor, too! No? But then one should not take Geagea as a model because he is a one of a kind.

And why gabby7 should Nassy go to jail? What crime was he involved with? Name a specific one.

hahahah yea it's a well known fact that criminals who go to jail "come out better men"
man get real, it's in his nature, geagea is sadistic and cruel and stops at nothing in his quest for power. geagea showed no mercy, whether in the ways of killing and torturing, of the way he would finish off even the wounded in hospitals. a lot of the killing and suffering inflicted were not justified by any military imperatives.

on the other hand, i wont even bother trying to convince you because you're too brainwashed, but look at nasrallah, and think for a second.
it's been years that geagea (among others) pokes at him pokes at him pokes at him, and nasrallah doesnt respond to provocation.
he has had the power to grab that sadistic mass murderer by the neck and snap it like it was a kaak, and believe me if he wanted to he would do it in broad daylight, no need to hide and no need to use cowardly assassination methods. no one would be able to stop him anyway. but he doesnt. think about it.

i dont believe in god, but god bless nasrallah's patience, he is a wise man, he doesnt let anger dictate his conduct.

mowaten thats the most narrow minded analysis i have heard in my life.\

basically all your post is nothing other than your opinion. dont forget that no one killed or tortured more lebanese than your sponsor assad

yes it is my opinion, what would you want it to be? your opinion? well yea obviously you'd like it if i comforted you in your illusions, but i wont. sorry.

and what exactly is your opinion worth? wein bo2bada hayde?

rou7 2bod men ghayre habibe if that what you care about.

dont worry, im not after your money :) its a saying. which means that your opinion is as valuable as mine, as FT's, as slash's, as arzak's etc etc. so dont try to take the moral high ground and think that just because you think its right.

Bottom line is that you hate his guts..but it doesnt make him any less of what he is and represents. it only shows that your arguments and posts are only based on what you think and believe, not the truth

3a faw2a, wein saro those files. 3a ases when he comes to power, he will expose every one of them bla bla blaaaaaaaa

i dont think all opinions are equal, they can be equally valid even if they are contradictory, as long as they are equally founded and justified by a comparable effort of analysis and reflection. but whatever let's not get too philosophical.

to get to the point, are you saying that geagea hasn't been provoking HA in countless speeches for years? are you saying that this is a product of my imagination?
are you saying that it's only "my opinion" that HA could have taken him out in broad daylight if that was compatible with their rules of conduct? in 2008 they had hariri and joumblat surrounded, their biggest opponents, if they were ruthless killers as you try to portray them, how come they didnt kill them?
or let me put it this way, had geagea been in command of HA, in that same situation of having his greatest enemies at the tip of his gun, would he, or would he not have pulled the trigger?
dont answer me, i dont need to have you say it, because i know you know the answer.

well there you go again with the what if. maybe he would have maybe he wouldnt. thats the whole point, that the guy has changed and hasnt done anything to prove otherwise. if anything he has gone through the greatest length of all politicians in lebanon to show he regrets the war and its consequences.

Geagea has had a political speech since he came out, and he does attack hizballah in his politics? is that forbidden? are they above being criticized? many times have hizbullah officials come out and called him an israeli agent blablabla. is that not provocation? are these accusations based on any proof or just the mentality of if you're not with us you're with the enemy?

and finally, bi kaffe enno HA had surrounded lebanese people and thretened them with death if they dont back down. what does that say about the "glorious" resistance?

You forgot to say that they are kidnappers, drug dealers, responsible of terrorist acts (indiscriminate murder of innocents), war criminals (they hide their weapons and missile launching pads in civilians houses), support tyrant regimes, and confiscate and build property of Christians.
what a program. Now I understand why the simple sunnis living in Beirut are such a threat to FPMers

and for sure Iran does, duh....

and syria lebnan dont forget. "syria is the example of democracy in the middle east" according to some buffoons

who said KSA is? i dare you to tell me where geagea said it or even insinuated it?

i'll give you a couple of hours to research that. try tayyar.org you might find some article there that says he did i'm sure

then please get the f out of saudi and qatar and go get jobs in tehran hypocrite

Better to be backed by the USA & Saudis right now then the Syrian Baath

Doesn't that ring a bell about those who are all too willing to accuse everything on Israel and Amreeka? Food for thought.

FT stop talking about foreign money , stop talking about speculations and daily lies ... your camp is not really better concerning these points ... your next heroic brezident , forget it , he said it more than once he wont run for it ... btw there are many charges according to the law that can put AOun/Hassan/Berri in jail for more than 20 years , so zip it ! The only sectarian is Aoun haboub , this guy is always talking about the state institutions, so stop living in your bubble.

FT: mbala 3a zaw2o , the guy if he was trully hungry for power he would have run for an MP seat or a ministry representing LF , he doenst care about those and surely he doesnt want to be president , what he cares for is LF that is all , beleive or not it wont change reality .

As for the charges go read the article that i posted above in a reply to Hammouds

well it shows that you have read the article and understood what was written in it ;)

true, like brainwashed people like mowaten, who somehow in his twisted mind reverses all realities to fit his fantasies, the syrian army mbahdal la allah and somehow the rebels are the ones who are losing. Even bab amr which was 'liberated' is being shelled every day !! lol.. the day that bashar gets wacked mowaten will think he will come back from heaven to rule lebanon lol.

Well said and smack on formerlebaniz. Don't let these few M8 HA conditioned sheep on this forum bother you. They don't know better and very limited upstairs. They were taught from childhood not to dare think for themselves but let the almighty Khomeini do that for them.

M14 are idiots, they need to get arms and trainning and kil wa7ad ysaker his region and 7aje maskhara.

FlameThrower,

I would really REALLY feel bad for anyone that would listen to you and say "hmmm" this guy makes sense. Seriously can you even convince your self with this bullshit?

If Hizbullah decides "fuck it" I'll take over the country entirely, the country will be shunned out from the International community, they would have crippling sanctions (and sanctions would work far more on Lebanon than Iran), This would give every excuse in the world for Israel to come in and blow Lebanon back to the stone age (where you would strive). No idiot with 2 functional braincells would do this. It's like asking "hmmm if you think Syria was controlling lebanon why haven't they just said fuck it and I'll declare Lebanon as a Syrian state".

Regarding your M8 comments them not storming the serail, and using their firepower internally, what did you forget the May 2008? or that doesn't count?

M8/Syria are the prime suspect of any M14 politician/supporter, it's pretty simple equation really don't eliminate your oppononent but keep them weak.

talking about kids, how the general is dealing with the murder of the kids in tal el zaatar? oh i forgot , ManAoun cant kill ya ahbal !

Geagea made them mad during the war, and now during peace time he makes them even more mad. They were hoping that he would die in jail whilst the general was fating on caviar in France, it did not work, Geagea is here and the general is now accepting that he is now on his way out. As you rightly pointed out, Geagea is still the only one who says it as it is, whereas the old general keeps twisting facts each time with a different flavor to suit the daily need unashamedly.

Truth is like beauty these days in Lebanon - in the eyes of the beholder.
Truth is, one can accumulate all the medals in the world and still be a traitor to his principles...

did you forget arzak. they pulled him away and kidnapped him to france while he was kicking and screaming and saying nooo i want to stay here and fight. LOL

you forgot that kitchen knife too rudy , he was holding a big big big kitchen knife :)

Israel man , ma32oul hal sou2al , bi sharafak halla2 , l israeliyi w amrica l shaytan l a3zam ;)

the only people beating their cheaasts atm are Aounettes, like they always did , dude you are worst than the jews never fought your own wars , you have always to ask someone else ... yalla Shi3as will wake up one day and you ll find yourselves alone , again ... stafid halla2 , bokra byouta sawtak ya rejel ;)

there's actually an inconsistency with how smart you try to sound and how smart you actually are FT, distort as much as you want you wont change anything.

lol well put slash

Aoun even went to beat Usein Bolt's record in running. What is even worse is his monumental lying, the man just can't know when to stop lying, the old man is indeed a megalomaniac.

The very night he fled, he had promised he will die fighting, DIE fighting which he never did, he fled, how he fled doesn't matter, he fled when in the presence of millions he clearly said he will die fighting. But those who died are the men and women who believed his message, where are they today but forgotten. Aoun has that effect, he makes you believe things he can't substantiate, and when cornered will deny flat out when damning evidence is here to cut him short.

a question : Why is it so hard to believe that Syria, knowing what theyve already done, has actually been responsible for many of the Lebanese events?

It is not that I see Syria as an ally. Read any of my comments on any article. I never said that. But I will tell you that I do find it hard to believe that Wisam was killed by Syria. What did Syria gain out of killing him after Samaha was already being prosecuted?

And FYI, I do not believe Syria is as innocent as some of the most outspoken M8 supporters would have you believe. They are playing the game of politics in the region. Sadly Lebanon is apart of the game. Syria, however, is not the only player; the players include Syria, Iran, Saudi (and the rest of the relevant Gulf nations), US, and of course Israel

i was referring to M8 supporters FT

In the free Lebanon of the LF, we used to park our cars without locking them, now that the areas are open to all, even the best alarm systems aren't enough and as for power? Just check how many times it goes off in one day. The Paris of the East, the Pearl of the East, true, it was before the war started, which is why the war came, many don't like us so bright at night.

well true in an another country where the human loss is taken into consideration , in lebanon FT it doenst work ... we saw it since kamal Jumblat ... when the opposition loses one of their men it benefits the others and dont think that demonizing the others will let them stop form doing what they did , look at it , did it stop the 1year and half of sit in ? did it open the parliament ? it didnt lead us to 7oukoumet tassrif a3mel? so yeah you are completly right it didnt serve M8 at all and you thank others for their narrow minded outlook !

Guys take it easy. I'm against all killings, I swear on my grandmother's discolored cookbook. You know that nobody except Rafic Syria and his Syria's Rafics (Jumblatt and predominantly non-Christian folks) liked the Syrians. Believe me, belated lovers of Rafic Syria (talking about wrong timing in everything), those who hated Syria also despised Syria's Rafics who have since claimed to have converted without sufficient repentance (but you folks are very forgiving, God bless you). Whoever killed Rafic did a masterful job. Just think about it. In one shot they saved Lebanon of a hated and a despised: the Syrian occupation and their best Rafic! I am sure you will agree with me that whoever did this deserves not only praise and thanks, but the medal of honor of the highest degree. Be safe, March 14.

Hizbala w inta sade` killed hasan who caught the israeli networks spying on hizbala lol, which means in plain english and arabic, the real important enemy is the sunis not the jews, what more evidence do people want?? how long did fayez karam stay in jail lol?