Report: Bassil, Qazzi Proposals to End Policy Statement Deadlock Met with Rejection
إقرأ هذا الخبر بالعربيةEfforts to come up with a policy statement have so far failed as various proposals by the ministers at the panel tasked with the mission have been met with rejection by the rival March 8 and 14 camps, reported the daily An Nahar on Saturday.
It said that Foreign Minister Jebran Bassil and Labor Minister Sejaan Qazzi came up with two different proposals that do not include points of contention, but they were rejected.
Bassil proposed that the government “forgo a ministerial statement altogether and that it suffice by saying that it is a cabinet of national interest that will not spare any effort to serve the nation.”
For his part, Qazzi hailed Bassil's suggestion, describing it as a “good idea,” but he then made a proposal of his own.
The minister suggested that the ministerial statement be comprised of single page that includes general principles that are not related to the March 8 or 14 camps.
The principles adhere to the state alone, he explained.
The proposal was however rejected by the March 8 representatives of the ministerial panel, with State Minister for Parliamentary Affairs Mohammed Fneish demanding that the word “resistance” be included in the statement.
The word resistance should be included without associating it with the state, he added.
Fneish's suggestion was advocated by Finance Minister Ali Hassan Khalil.
Telecommunications Minister Butros Harb then interjected and said that issues of contention should be presented at cabinet, but this was rejected by Prime Minister Tammam Salam who explained that this proposal undermines the panel's competency.
“I was patient for ten months until the government was formed and you should also be patient, but we cannot be made to wait for a long time,” he declared according to An Nahar.
The gatherers agreed to hold their eighth meeting at 6:30 pm on Monday.
The main issues of contention over the policy statement lie in the March 8 demand that it refer to the resistance and “army-people-resistance” formula, while the March 14 camp has been insisting that the Baabda Declaration be mentioned in the statement.
Both camps are rejecting the other side's proposals.
Salam has announced that his government's mission is combating terrorism and preparing for the upcoming presidential elections.
Why all this talk about resistance against Israel to please the HA?
I am not worried about Israel.
I prefer to talk about resistance against the Baath and the pals and Iran's encroachment of our sovereignty. This is true Lebanese patriotic resistance.
The word resistance should be included without associating it with the state, he added.
ie hizbullah not only wants all the lebanese to bend over but to also to kneel down to Nasrallah and Iran.
(1). No ya FT brother, I am with Popeye on this one, and no one needs to bend over either. Actually talking of which, isn't the Lebanese state the very one that is forced to bend over to the wishes and caprices of Hezbollah? You tell me bro, who has caused and is still causing the inertia that is gripping Lebanon but mainly Hezbollah? Look bro, let's come out of hiding from our little finger, the Ostrich mentality must go now, only a strong Lebanese State, with strong constitutional institutions like the LAF et all can guaranty the survival and future of this country and all its people. Our sad predicament started with our single biggest mistake, to institute the PLO to do its fight from Lebanon, now that they're gone, you honestly think it's right to carry on with the stigma with its Lebanese version?
(2). To brother FT. For years all the Lebanese accepted Hezbollah's role of the resistance against Israel, but if you want to tell me that most doubted its essence in truth, as everyone knew that after Israel pulls out, Hezbollah will create sequels to its role, as now we are witnessing. I am one who had doubts over Hezbollah, just as I had doubts over Aoun early on, so, today in 2014, were are we in truth ya akkhi, were? Have we for once tried the State, as in the Stet of the people, for the people and by the people? No khayye, we haven't and we we are NOT allowed yet. The only time, and I'll say this with my head held very high, we had a real state for 22 days, 22 golden days, when Bachir was president elect, the only time. Kif laken if he was president in his full powers, ya wayleh ya wayleh? It's about the state enjoying full powers, not of one emasculated by one militia after the other.
phoenix i usually consider your comments wise and well-thought, but pointing the finger at hezbollah for the inertia and everything that is wrong is a purely partisan accusation that is below you.
when m14 refuses for 10 months to create a cabinet, because they want to exclude hezbollah (who represents a huge chunk of the lebanese population) who is causing the inertia?
HA fought and is fighting existential battles of lebanon, whether in the south with israel or in the east with the takfiris and terrorists. all m14 does is bicker and whine, and stall, and lay blame around without contributing in anything. literally, all they do all day is na2 na2 na2! bi chou cheyfin 7alon?? when qaeda started arriving in lebanon, way before any talk of HA intervention in syria, they were in denial and being all offended that ghosn "dares" warn about it. ( http://www.naharnet.com/stories/en/23982 )
when qaeda started kidnapping and killing, they shoved their head in the sand, not a word not an action to deal with it. not the slightest indication that they cared or that they would do something about it.
and when tens of thousands of qaeda and qaeda-affiliated fighters were massed on our border, and threatening to flood us at any moment, HA acted. what did m14ers do? did they try to mediate? try to talk to rebels they have ties with, to ask them guarantees for lebanon? did they take a patriotic stance? no they just sat around and waited for HA to act so they can enjoy their favorite hobby: blame, and whine, and blame.
the way i see it, the only thing holding this country together is HA, and m14 doesnt want a strong state or a strong army. that's just talk that they never materialized into actions. seems to me all they want is a weak hezbollah, and reasons to whine.
"and when tens of thousands of qaeda and qaeda-affiliated fighters were massed on our border, and threatening to flood us at any moment, HA acted. "
and where were those tens of thousands of fighters amassing at the border? can you name the city, the village mr. propagandist. If you keep repeating the same lies, it does not mean it will become reality.
How about the statement containing the phrase: "Resist bending over to armed thugs and welayat elfaqih"
lol popeye, denying that qusayr and the entire qalamoun range is infested with nusra fighters? that's a very long shot, i doubt anyone will buy it.
now if you please, i was talking to phoenix, not the delusional you. go sell your disinformation elsewhere.
likewise, the only ones who have rational reasons to strengthen the resistancce are Baathists and Iranians.
This so called "Resistance ,army and people" equation is so stupid and flawed that not even its authors can satisfactory explain how its works.
Our enemy is Israel. But the greater enemy is Syria. The "resistance" should resist against ALL enemies....
Question: do we really want to built our country?
I await the day when I will read ONE meaningful post, ONE counter argument, ONE credible or mature info from you,-_Flamethrower_- , but alas!
very simple Flame, peace with Israel. have the guts to advocate it. most of Lebanons problems will be solved when and only when...
It shouldn't be called resistance since it doesn't resist, is a sectarian organization and pro-iran in its essence.
@ flame please keep my cabeza out of it and keep your comments above the insults please. I have never insulted you or anyone else on this forum for three years as this is not what I was reared to do.
1. Do you realy think that the Lebanese forces will ever be equal or superior to the Israeli forces? I'll answer it for you NO. Therefore, Lebanon should do whatever it can to facilitate peace with whatever means they can muster.
2. Where did you get that I see Syria as an enemy?
3. I would not be so sure about Syria not meddling in our defense planning. Direct or indirect meddling is still meddling.
4. As I see it supporting Hizballah is indirect interference.