مقتل 8 وجرح 10 في اشتباكات مسلحة في مخيم المية ومية

First off, long over due compliment - 'Full Disclosure' whoever you are, and wherever you are - your comments and style - much respect.

yeah right, lets deport palestinians...

question 1 : how & to where ?

question 2 : what about christian and shia palestinians that received citizenship ? what about armenians ? ALL should be deported, innit ?

FD, Michael Owen, or better know as Michel Aoun, can't argue with that.

Cedre if you toned down a little bit, you would have noticed that I did not post confessionally, but nationaly and patriotically. When I said Palestinians, I mean them all, irrespective of sect, OK? My preocupation is Lebanese and I honestly care less for anything else. Again, if you stayed calm, you could have asked me, how. Ultimately yes, deportation will be the end result, but after having agreed with those Arab countries deemed decent enough to take their fair share and quota and over a fair period of time. I keep repeating that it is grossly unfair to burden us little Lebanon with such problems, fair share, yes, unfair share, hell NO! Then sorry to correct you, I personally know of many Christian Palestinians and no, they have not been given nationality. I feel that you still calculate in sectarian demographic terms, but that's not how I calculate.

JB, the Palestinian is a person I consider an ungrateful guest. He is getting a lot more than he would get in any other country, and for all I know, he is our number one ailment. Even today, he, the Palestinian keeps reflecting their dead boss's views, Yasser Arafat who at one time was promised by the Kissinger plan to be given Lebanon as a substitute state to them. Arafat the fat rat even said it, that the roda to Jerusalem passed thru Jounieh and went as far as declaring himself on French TV that he was indeed president of Lebanon. Well, the poor guy miscalculated that the Christians were a lot lot tougher to crack.

PTSD, looks a lot like you little gal, Ibinbinladen, aka, Bani Maarouf, aka Ibinharatherik, Bint Set bani Zeinab, fake FD aka HD, akak Profile, aka Walid Jumblat. Now please do us all a favor, remove His Eminence's picture from your alias, he looks too good for you, use the ugly one of yours instead, of Jombie that is. But I know and I swear by all the cows you worship, even you have a problem looking at yourself, for a gay you look damn too ugly. Compare that with the picture of one of Lebanon's most handsome. OK, now hit that roof of yours.

phoenix, GCC full of Palestinians, and lebanese btw...

@ ibnHarathHreik : +1000, lets give normal rights to palestinians...

cedre. Are you out of your mind? you want to naturalize palestinians?
Under what logic? To reward them because they tried to kick christians out of lebanon during the civil war? This is ABSOLUTELY out of the question. You have zero faithfulness towards your fellow lebanese, and think exclusively along sectarian lines. You learned nothing of the civil war? If sunnites vote to keep them in, better then to split the country. But we will NEVER naturalize them.

Regarding Pals christians or shias. Same fate as pals sunnites. Doesnt matter. Our country is not their country and will never be.

Regarding the armenians. They were here from the beginning. Lebanon became their country in the 20s. They have been naturalized. And as a bonus they are a positive addition to lebanese society. So stop drawing baseless parallels.

Couldnt agree more, Cedre. Well said.

> let them take all the Palestinian

how about you just give them some rights?

lefirst : when did i say i want to give citizenship to palestinians ?
I actually said to strip off their citizenship christian, shia palestinians, alawite syrians and armenians...
I said normal rights for palestinians ie school, hospitals, employment in private sector, etc... but no weapons...

no refugee camps in GCC coz they give them permanent residency & normal rights. KSA, Qatar, UAE full of Palestinians, working and owning businesses normally. Jordan is more palestinian than jordanian. Same applied to Kuwait until 91...

I have a fishing boat in Gemayel port, if it helps, let it be part of the fleet that will take them out of Lebanon. I'll also pay for the Diesel, full tank.

lol

Bani Maaroof, the boat I have for you is full of Ugandans, you'll love the ride my gal, the choppier the waves, the better the ride, and ever time you relax a little, one of them will shout in your ear, Ouwwet, Bachir Gemayel and up you'll jump again, till you reach Zimbabwe by which time they'll calm you down with that sweet word, oh sweet word, Samir Geagea.

That's incorrect Cedre, please check your facts again, mine at least are very different.

You are too sectarian!!! and i think like you, many sunnits were given the lebanese nationality in an abnormal way during the 90

texas, respect is mutual my friend.
Palestinians cant go back to Palestine, Armenians can go to Armenia or occupied Karabakh...
Shia and Christian Palestinians were given citizenship as a whole, I acknowledge some sunnis were given as well citizenship. Same apply to lots of syrian alawites...
Dont get me wrong lads, I oppose naturalisation of all groups, but normal rights for all + rights to lebanese mothers to give citizenships to their kids or at least normal rights + easy naturalisation to all people of proven lebanese ancestry that come back...

its not about productivity or being an asset.
It's about respecting all sects' opinions.
Armenians are not lebanese, point final. Giving them citizenship, break the demographic balance. Or is it ok when it helps alawite, christian and shia demographics ?

' I too have utmost respect to both Armenians & Palestinian people.'

+1000, how can u be productive when u have no rights and u are living in a refugee camp/slum ?

Tex, I did not say you said, I just continued where you stopped. But unlike you, I have absolute respects for Armenians, whereas I don't have any for Palestinians, sorry, I am not here to please, just my frank views.

Yeah, sure ya Banishoufgay, and the Druze, the gentle peace-loving Druze, they were there meditating cross-legged worshipping their cows and floating in mid air and John Lenon playing in the background, "Give peace a chance". OK, here to break your peace, jump, jump, "Bachir, Ouwwet, Bachir, Ouwwet". OK, let me soothe your heart, sweet Samir, sweet Geagea, nite nite gal, sleep tight, and dream of Sam G.

I would put the distinction on Armenians being peaceful and not carrying arms to fight Turkey. The PLO on the other hand established State within a State and together with the Sunnis of the 70s labored to break the back of the Government and the army. THis is why I say Kudos to Harriri who moderated the Sunni street significantly fromm where they were few decades ago. HA on the other hand, took the Shia3 from being moderated to becoming Mullah Lunatics.

do u respect christian palestinians ?
do u respect christian palestinians that received a lebanese passport?

Almost forgot, thanks for reminding me. Still gasing them is too much I would rather transport them to Gulf countries and to whoever takes them in. Use me to transport them.

I liked your answer FD. Aldeen le Allah walwatan laljamee3 (Religion is between a person and God while the nation is for all)

how are the holidays ?

Coolmec, it's a shame that it's turning sectarian and Cedre is not that innocent here either, but he has the gay thing all over the place with its silly comments. Most of us are trying to steer clear of sectarian levels anyway. But Wolf is indeed applying some dry shaving around too.

Phoenix1 and like minded others above have made the correct analysis about compering the Armenians with the Palestinians in the context of whether affording naturalization to the Palestinians as a whole is for the best interest of Lebanon. The Lebanese people who welcomed the Armenians as "brothers & sisters" felt happy with satisfaction that they are able to feel content with their gracious welcome of the Armenians. Almost all the Armenians joined, entered the Lebanese tent and made it a better place to live, but the majority of the Palestinians "stayed outside the tent and are still pissing inside it with the misguided notion that they were going replace the tent". This is the difference.

Loubnani, nothing sad about the Palestinians, they are ungrateful guests, they are not welcome anymore here, except by those who still dream of demographics. Some dreams though are not meant to be. Let them go man, who cares for such ungrateful people.