توقيف المرافق الشخصي للأسير في مطار بيروت

At least Vatican is a good example and reference of peace, tolerance and freedom like not your Saoudi or Iran, where no freedom, no tolerance and no peace. You just look at the blood, murder and killing in the arab countries and you will directly notice that The Vatican is higher. But if we are peaceful and tolerant, this does not mean at all that we are weaks. Lebanon the land of templars and should remain like this. On the other hand, I just calculated the assets ( Didn't added Carlos Slim fortune to my number ). Facts are facts, You recpect me so i can respect you, when you don't respect me i won't respect you. As simple as that.

well then how about you go live in the vatican? i dont care about saudi or iran, i care about lebanon, even if we are in troubled times that does not make us any less proud of who we are. better times will come, not by looking out to outside "models" to follow, but by finding and forging our own way.

dont forget, the vatican is peaceful and (relatively) tolerant today, but how many centuries of inquisition, burning heretics and applying the horrible tortures ever to "witches" and "sorcerers". how many people were crucified and dismembered by missionaries in south america, africa and asia? how many wars how many crusades were launched by the vatican? how about the orgies which the popes were famous for in the 13th century?
you should review your history my friend, i respect you, but if you want me to respect your -words- you should think about them some more. (you should also review your figures, 12bn is undoubtedly way below the reality)

FlameCatcher: there's at least one thing you didnt catch, it's the point of the discussion with Lebanese_Templar. your rant is simply hors sujet.

your rant is also full of accusations that have no anchor in reality:

-what do you know about bassil's wealth before? what do you know about his wealth today? nothing, this is pure defamation and M14 propaganda.
-what do you know of HA's funding? they get financial support from many members, this has nothing illegal, they also get financial support from iran, this has nothing illegal, again pure defamation and M14 propaganda.
what do you know about hariri's wealth? he arrived in lebanon with about 3bn of saudi money, but then he boomed to 14 bn within a couple of years, notably by expelling people from downtown and stealing their properties. he also made billions by issuing treasury bonds at insane rates and buying them himself. he also got the government to give him the "remblai du normandie" valued today at tens of billions of dollars, in exhange for solidere doing infrastructure works in downtown (valued at 300 million max)
this is not 5% at all...

so yea, maybe you should take your own advice and look at yourself in the mirror, because i wasnt making accusations earlier, but you did, and i think the flame just blew back in your own face :)

note well taken, my not-friend, and indeed you dont know me, as you said. you say "I" have 1434 years old, but you're not aware that I am not even Muslim. Still following your logic on that would mean that Muslims still have about 5 centuries to catch up before they can be considered "slower" or their evolution can be compared (where was Christianity 500 years ago?).
Anyway, this is not something i am interested in, i prefer judging people by their actions and their own lives, not their religion or tribe for which they bear neither credit nor responsibility.

My point, and I was speaking as lebanese, not muslim or christian or atheist, was that if you consider yourself a templar, which is not a lebanese order, you do not consider yourself lebanese, but you still want to partition my country. you can try, but i'm afraid many tried before you and were sent back to the sea.

first i am not your habibe, my dear not-friend.
second i did not speak in the name of anyone, i took examples that showed your figures were wrong.
third, i do not issue sentences because i am not a judge, but i do think and have my judgement on things. plus earlier you were judging muslims regressive, so your lame pun is also hypocritical.
finally, even though there are areas that have higher concentrations of one sect, there are still a lot of areas that are mixed and people are living and working together in very good harmony, but if you think partition was already made a long time ago, why are you still claiming it?