Aoun Accuses Qahwaji of 'Politicizing' Army, Urges Lebanese to Prepare for Protests
إقرأ هذا الخبر بالعربيةFree Patriotic Movement leader MP Michel Aoun launched on Saturday a scathing attack against Army Commander General Jean Qahwaji, accusing him of serving the interests of politicians instead of those of the nation.
He declared after an extraordinary meeting of the Change and Reform bloc: “Qahwaji has politicized the army and we warn him against placing the military in confrontation with the people.”
The meeting was held following the extension of the term of senior security officials on Thursday despite Aoun's objections.
The lawmaker accused the army of shortcomings in curbing the flow of arms in the northern city of Tripoli and northeastern border town of Arsal, adding that Hizbullah's “sacrifices for Lebanon are due to these shortcomings.”
“Had it not been for Hizbullah, Christians would face the same one as that of those of Nineveh in Iraq,” remarked Aoun in reference to the persecution of minorities at the hand of jihadists.
Moreover, he warned Qahwaji against placing the army in a confrontation with the people similar to when they last staged protests, saying that he has staged a “coup, along with others” against Lebanon's system.
The MP called on “all Lebanese to prepare themselves to stage demonstrations” against the cabinet and the corruption in the country.
He stated that the “government of garbage” has failed in its duties towards the people, lamenting the ongoing waste disposal crisis and poor electricity and water services throughout the country.
“All Lebanese are expected to express themselves during protests, which is a right preserved by the constitution,” he declared.
He stressed that the people hold the power in Lebanon, adding that officials “derive their legitimacy from them.”
Defense Minister Samir Moqbel extended on Thursday the terms of the army commander, chief of staff and the head of the Higher Defense Council despite months of objections by the FPM, which rejects the extension of the tenures of high-ranking military and security officials.
In June, FPM supporters took to the street and staged a demonstration near the Grand Serail in protest against its decision-making mechanism and in demand of the restoration of the rights of Christians.
Scuffles ensued between the protesters and security forces guarding the Serail as the demonstrators sought to approach the building.
بثّت قناة "او تي في" الناطقة باسم "التيار الوطني الحر" مساء أمس ان "المساعي لإيجاد حل شامل لملف التعيينات الامنية لا تزال مستمرة على رغم تعنت الفريق الآخر في موقفه"، وقالت ان "اقتراح التيار الوطني الحر يدور حول محاولة اقرار مشروع قانون تعديل قانون الدفاع وتمديد سن التقاعد ثلاث سنوات لجميع الضباط من كل الرتب"،
but aoun is against extensions....
so Aoun is against extension of the terms of 3 generals ( army command; army chief of staff, national relief council) but is for the extension of more than 300 officers....hahahaha;)
flamethrower as usual you have nothing to offer except personal attacks. What I wrote is being discussed on every major news site including yours. Here is an article from Al Nahar actually referring to the FPM proposal of extending the terms of all officers by 3 years. I quote from the middle of the article:
وبثّت قناة "او تي في" الناطقة باسم "التيار الوطني الحر" مساء أمس ان "المساعي لإيجاد حل شامل لملف التعيينات الامنية لا تزال مستمرة على رغم تعنت الفريق الآخر في موقفه"، وقالت ان "اقتراح التيار الوطني الحر يدور حول محاولة اقرار مشروع قانون تعديل قانون الدفاع وتمديد سن التقاعد ثلاث سنوات لجميع الضباط من كل الرتب"، مشيرة الى ان "التعديل لن يشمل سن التقاعد فقط بل يرفع المهل الزمنية الفاصلة بين رتبة واخرى".
http://newspaper.annahar.com/article/257983-موقف-دولي-مرن-من-التمديد-للعسكريين-عون-اليوم-إلى-الشارع-والمفاوضات-مفتوحة?id=257983
Yes we read all about what Qazzi suggested. He suggested a fee of L.L 50,000 to expedite applications at the ministry he leads. What is the difference when paying an extra L.L 100,000 to get an expedited passport at your friends at the General Security.
FT, no one begged you to rejoin, the many dots you used are proof enough of the energy spent on it. The thing though that characterizes you and several people of the M8 camp when they write is this: Whilst we M14ers focus on the politicians or personalities that the article is written on, you and your likes focus on us that write. We air our views within the require decorum, you guys air your views on us the M14 posters but well out of the decorum limits. You have no limits to your imaginations, to the cheap levels of insults and derogation, in all simplicity, it is a trait, a character to unique to M8, Hezbollah and FPM partisans, simply put, there is no reward in discussing anything with you people, be it in a forum or live. The good thing though is that you're most welcome to leave if it pleases you NOT.
flamethrower
did you also use the alias @incorruptible?
I think you should be ashamed of yourself having been caught with all these fake accounts. Your use of certain words like "jiddo phoenix" "argumentation" etc etc just gave you away....
this troll named flamethrower has no brains, no shame, no morals. When the U.S government says your passport costs 100 USD for normal service and an additional 30 USD for expedited service/delivery it is corruption according to the minion flamethrower. The ministry of labor in Lebanon is flooded with maids and migrant workers permits and has limited resources/budget. The extra fee to expedite the service goes to employees working overtime, etc. just like any government agency.
dear phoenix, I knew long time ago it was flamethrower and his other alias roar making these accounts. The style is the same even the same words they use. They always attack the same people including you. As you said, this forum has been hijacked by these trolls and derailed. Notice today how the usual troll (s) did not post when flamethrower surfaced once again. A person like flamethrower who cannot stay away from naharnet for one second is trying to convince us he refrained from posting for maybe a month now;)? I doubt it very much. It does not take a rocket scientist to know it is him, mowaten, and roar making these accounts. Shameless
Justice Minister Ashraf Rifi to VDL (93.3): If it weren't for his military career, MP Michel Aoun would have never reached as far as he did in politics.
The mustaqbal totally disrespects the concept of cooperation democracy and the national pact and you all cheer as they throw away democracy. You are disrespecting hundreds of thousands of Christians here. Just because you have bought a few Christians doesn't mean the rest will offer themselves for sale. Extend parliament extend officials terms do what is necessary to keep control of Lebanon even though for 25 years you have done nothing but brims debt and immigration
You mean the parliament that twice extended itself rather than face public will? Or Sami gemayels promise after his own term that he would sleep on the steps of parliament and a fair election law would be the first topic of discussion? March 14 led my mustaqbal is anti democracy anti understanding and a bunch of thugs. They where the puppets of the Syrians and now the Saudis. As long as the money rolls in then who needs democracy?
the parliament that aoun is still part of? The parliament that still pays the FPM salaries? The parliament that HA and Amal and Franjieh all agreed to extend, yet it seems all the blame goes to Future in your own "unbiased" opinion. Go to parliament and vote and stop using Christians as an excuse. It is not about Christians it is about Aoun and his family. It seems there are no more Christian generals worthy of the army command except aoun's son-in-law and of course it is KSA's fault. Even the FPM internal elections there seems to be only Aoun's relatives that are worthy of leading the FPM.
rami, do you mean that Mustaqbal bought off Sleiman Frangieh and his Marada movement? Because along with Mustaqbal, the independents, Jumblat and the FL also Frangieh, Hezballah, Amal, the democratic party, the SSNP, the Baath all voted to extend parliament's term. Furthermore it was a Marada/Aoun block minister, in a Hezballal lead government with ten Aoun block ministers, who extended the military officials' and general Qahwagi's terms. One last thing, the largest Christian immigration happened during Aoun's tenure as PM and his failed wars, when he used the Lebanese army for strictly selfish gains in his quest to appoint himself president. It was during that time as well when Aoun, a PM, unconstitutionally moved into the presidential palace claiming he was "Président et six Ministres". Remember Aoun's one and only duty and task as PM was to help elect a president, not destroy the country in his crazy greed to occupy the post.
Did you say Jiddo Phoenix ya FT? Good, very good, you've done me and us all a huge favor, because you've narrowed down the suspicion that you are trolling heavily on this site. Don't deny it either, you've literally run out of steam, but small indicators, as small as they are, are enough to inculpate you. This is what happens when a rat does not sniff the air before erring into the open.
I read must of your posts and i want to mention or add, General Rokouz is one of the best army's commander Lebanon ever had. He is probably not happy at all with his father-in-Law with his behaviors against the army and the rest of the general command. it seems like General Aoun has defected from the military and planing on a coup that will topples Lebanon with it. I am not a M14 or M8 and live in The USA and lover of Lebanon only. But, what we see and hear it makes us believe there are no Lebanese in Lebanon and no one give a shit about Lebanon that lives in Lebanon, every one is for himself and for a foreign country that he follows their command.they all sold Lebanon to the devil.
I heard up about one accusing that Mustakbal following Saudi commands but he forgot to mention that Houzeb and Aoun are bought and commanded by Iran and its interests. If The Lebanese will only work and unit to put Lebanon first? no country in the world will dare to even wisper or breath on Lebanon.
@flamethrower.deyyous, true that, if only this guy and others can simply debate and without the personal insults. Nade, good post yours is, but trust me, the Lebanese that love their country are many, but there are also many who want to drown our voices, we will not allow them, especially the traitors like Aoun and Hassan Nasrallah.
FT, you know as I know that Aoun is a free-mason, you are the one who works for him, not me, then just keep that loose tongue of yours in check, you will get banned soon. Then how many more dots will you have to add again? You need to hide again as a troll especially since you have no dignity, just like your old sick man Aoun. By the way, does the @70cars alias ring any bells? ba3ad baddak tenkour ya FT?
a)Aoun: This is a government of garbage.
The only garbage in the government is you and the terrorist party.
b) Aoun: I do not have blood on my hands and we can hold everyone else responsible for their actions.
YES you do! You have a lot of blood on your hand; you killed Christians and Moslems alike. You shelled Beirut and killed children in their school buses at 7:30 in the morning. Ask Salim el Hoss.
c) Aoun: Had it not been for Hizbullah and its defense of Lebanon, Christians would face the same one as that of those of Nineveh in Iraq.
Zip it traitor. The only entity defending Lebanon and its people ( of all sects ) is the LAF.
d) Aoun addressing Army Commander Jean Qahwaji: You have no right to allow the flow of arms to thrive in Arsal and Tripoli.
A lowlife sectarian...... all the arms that your ally hezbollah has are invisible to you. The crimes committed on a daily basis in Brital and the Bekaa and Shia areas are invisible to you. The resistance Brigades are invisible to you.
e) Aoun: My capital is from the people, while they forged facts and robbed the treasury.
Your capital is nothing, zero. Your capital is the arms of a sectarian terrorist militia called hezbollah.
f) عون: إياك يا جان قهوجي ان تنشر الجيش اللبناني في مواجهتنا.
Continue to attack the army and undermine it.... IF any other politician used this kind of language you will be the first to call him ISIS supporter, a traitor, and call for his execution.
He stated that the “government of garbage” has failed in its duties towards the people, lamenting the ongoing waste disposal crisis and poor electricity and water services throughout the country.
poor electricity eih wallah! for 14 years it has been under M8 and/or the FPM. Bassilico stole 1.5 billion usd while promising us 24/24 electricity and now the new thief wants another billion. Rou7 ndabbbb ya bala marmba..
you want evidence flamethrower:))?
you'd not recognize evidence if it went between your eyes and exited the back of your head with a colorful flurry of unused brain cells over a bright night's sky.
how about focusing on the article instead of spamming, leeching and being your droney self, spambot flamethrower (: ?
FT, you said and I wquote, "i'm so glad you and poopie still recycle my lines, eagleskunk. how else would your life have meaning?", Unquote. You would have gone for ten years and come back, and this is the best you can attain, sad to be honest.
FT, the trademark name of a professional insulter. Yalla, keep continuing, typical Aounist partisan attitude.
@Canadian Paul
What if she was as ugly as aoun? Would you still give her satisfaction?
I await the day when I will read ONE meaningful post, ONE counter argument, ONE credible or mature info from you, ..flamethrower.... , but alas!
(2). On Michel Aoun. Aoun has that very same knack, say what people want to hear. Use famous people to compare with. Aoun has sold now untold amounts of Christian lands to the Shiite who were once cash rich, thankfully no more nowadays. As I said, Aoun meets on Tuesdays after sunset, or 7PM in Summer time, earlier in Winter time. The Church of Christ is his target. Now that profound greed has long since settled, Aoun wants to create his empire, where he seats as president of the republic, his sick son-in-law Roukoz as army chief and the double-jointed gnome Gebran as super minister. By doing so, Aoun will provide Hezbollah and its mentors Syria and Iran with all the things they want from Lebanon, small as it is, Lebanon is pivotal to them all, and Aoun the Nero of Lebanon will be second to none in due time.
(3). On Michel Aoun. But Aoun has not anticipated the many developments that have been taking place , especially for the past 2 years or so, namely, the sharp reverses of the Syrian regime in the Syrian war, the losses of Hezbollah there and in Yemen plus the HA financial reverses worldwide, the bold involvement of the Gulf Monarchies, the newfound Lebanese Army capacities and the growing support that it is now enjoying, plus that huge popularity both at home and internationally, and by default credits also go to General Qahwaji, an impermeable and enduring PM Salam, an international community that is exasperated with the Hezbollah-led M8 coalition hence the warnings dished out without a week by the major international players, Iran's deal with the US and the EU, obviously whose impact is now beginning to be felt negatively on Hezbollah and M8, the popularity of Aoun now in free fall mode hence the phenomenal 70 cars.
(4). On Michel Aoun. Now despite all the broad support he is given, a Free TV/Radio station, militarily equipped thugs, thug policy courtesy of Hezbollah, the international support of the US Scottish Masonic Rite, again, the baaad ones, all mixed in a rotten poison potpourri, the serving Maronite patriarch that now has made his U-turn on Aoun as well, the extension of Qahwaji's term, a Lebanese Army that now does not cozy up to Aoun or Hezbollah anymore, in brief, one reversal after the other now have finally culminated into a string of catastrophes for the FPM, Hezbollah and the free masons.
This mareedman is a born loser....everything he did was a failure...this is the LAST thing he is going to do before he imploses in a massive neurasthenic crisis...
Tric, remove that cloak of deceit ya evil man, your lies will not go past. You're either childish to the bone marrow or too yellow to know the difference. For man does not live by bread alone ya Satan.
Let us never forget that this traitor is a COWARD....he deceived us then, and he will deceive the remaining followers now.
Caporal is executing the orders which will result in destroying the institutions and the National Pact with the aim for Ebola to impose the Mutelateh.
I appeal every Christian to denounce the Caporal as the greatest enemy of the Christians.
Tric, did you say great leader general. generally he is thought of as the traitor, the great traitor, if this is how great you think he is, then I wonder what you are. Food for thought.
why doesn't your aoun talk about this
"Moussa, who is a student at Balamand University, was handed over to the army intelligence and then his father by members of the Ismail and Jaafar families in the eastern town of Brital after he paid them a ransom, MTV said.
According to NNA, the ransom amounted to 350,000 dollars."
P.S.
BTW, flamethrower, The troll who has been haunting the forum also uses the word "argumentation"
@1anonymetexasusa, great post you wrote, but the trouble with people like FT, even if we brought the evidence in solid form and on a platter, they'll remain blind to it. Nothing of reason matters, what Aoun says, is what they should do and repeat in tandem. They and us will have no peace until Aoun leaves this world, and I pray it will be very soon. With all the hard kicks Aoun is receiving to his butt lately, I am sure that his doctors are administering him a lot more tranquilizers, I hope it will tranquilize him for good. May this rotten old man burn in hell soon. Lebanon is above him and all his likes.
there is only flamethrower posting so far and he already managed 6 votes so far. let's see how this thread turns out
(1). FT, enta rou7 endab. I have every reason to suspect that you are trolling this site, coming up with many different aliases, Incorruptible is one of them. I thought that you were a lot smarter, but you don't seem to show proof of it. FT, you are like people I've seen before in this forum, your only aim is to derail a thread, especially when you old friend Aoun is being criticized so much, anything but try to derail. Look at how you're wasting my time and that of others simply because we have to answer back to your insults. Naharnet bans you repeatedly, then you go quiet, then you troll like crazy, thumbs and down with so many stupid names here and there, then add a few more dots, bingo, another miracle happens, FT is back with more insults.
(2). FT. FT, you bring nothing new here except for your old character, you feel like trolling all day and all night, do it, surely you need to earn a life, but it won't stop me from being frank in my opinions, as brutally as they may come. And please, spare my your lame judgmental ways, I've seen you repeat them over and over under your many troll names, FT is FT, no matter what cloak you wish to wear, your trademark is known so well. You're doing all you could to find fault in me, you will only drain yourself, simple. You do remind me of your sick old Aoun who digs under the tar to accuse his opponents, but rest assured ya FT, you are as bad as a decaying corpse nowadays, you see..., the smell.
FT, you said and I wuote "your saudi owners channelling their PR through your puppet parties does not mean mustahbal secured the army deals. if the gvt accepted the iran weapons, nobody would have said aoun or hezb secured the deal. sure the PR would have been great but it's iran who made the initiative and now it's KSA who made the initiative and u know it. back to your basement, fast. earn more shekels", end of quote. Hmmmm....very interesting thing this, so reminiscent of Mystic and Mowaten, dunno, let me see.....hummmmmmmm, FT, are you still there? Hmmmmmmm....
i did not see you object flamethrower when abbas ibrahim's pictures were plastered all over kesrwein and jouneh.
Completely unhinged. No connection with reality. Now the LAF has joined the cabal that is against him. The voices are getting louder in his head. Some one should put this guy in his wheelchair and take him away
Breaking news:
Massive psychotic crisis tonight...he might end up in I.C.U
I pity him....
Shouting, yelling at close people and blaming them for their inability and incompetence. The declaration of General Abu Jamra accusing him of destroying the Army was too much for him...
Humble, it's no joke, MTV brought in a specialist to analyze Aoun's latest diatribes against General Qahwaji. His postures, leaning on the pulpit, his unfinished phrases, running out of breath, his erring looks and more go to indicate a tired man, a man who now has definitely run out of steam. This Clown is now over 80 and it shouldn't surprise anyone if he leaves this world soon. He will rest, and so will Lebanon, finally. Aoun is sheer evil, a promoter of hatred and violence, and only the possessed will follow him.
It is a game this Aoun is playing to gain the support of these LAF generals in line for retirement!
Really I don't blame General Aoun for all his strange acts, but to blame is those followers who laugh on him and on themself. God protect Lebanon from all idiots


