AMAL Chief Denies Supporters, Hizbullah Members Joined Battle against Asir

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The Speaker and Head of AMAL movement Nabih Berri denied on Wednesday reports saying that his supporters and Hizbullah members participated alongside the army in the battles in the southern city of Sidon.

“I urged AMAL supporters and the Haret Saida's residents to exercise self-restraint,” Berri said in comments published in local newspapers.

He stressed that the army has the right to strike with an iron fist and its simplest duty obliges it to maintain security and stability across the country.

“The army has the right to take the appropriate measures as there are no red lines confronting it,” the speaker said.

He pointed out that there are no areas that the army can't reach, saying: “We support it in preventing any security violations including in the Beirut's southern suburb.”

Berri hailed the stance taken by ex-Prime Minister and head of al-Mustaqbal movement Saad Hariri regarding Abra clashes.

AMAL chief noted that he held several phone calls with Hariri concerning the situation in Sidon.

Hariri stressed on Monday that al-Mustaqbal movement “will remain with the army,” saying the military institution did the right thing by confronting Asir.

A two-day battle between the Lebanese army and followers of a radical Salafist Sunni Muslim sheikh Ahmed al-Asir Abra killed 18 soldiers and wounded around 50 others.

More than 20 of Asir's supporters were killed, according to a security official.

Dozens of them were also arrested, but there was no sign of the cleric. The army has launched a manhunt for Asir.

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Thumb primesuspect 26 June 2013, 08:53

I wonder who lies, Fadlalla, Berri, or hundreds of witnesses?

I've got my opinion on this matter.

Thumb primesuspect 26 June 2013, 09:02

If anyone opposed to Hizballa terroritas and their military hegemony over lebanon is called an M14 partidista. Then 80% of Lebanon is M14.

stop insulting our intelligence and go fetch todays newspaper for ur papa aoun. u might even get a caress on ur head. wooof!

now get the hell out of our website. yes, our website.

Default-user-icon FlameCatcher (Guest) 26 June 2013, 13:09

You want reality FT, go have a walk in Dahyé with your camera and see how long it takes for Hezbollah thugs to jump you, question you, steal your camera, possibly even hit you, jail you.

Do the same in Tripoli, Saida and tell me if the same happens to you ...

Reality is not what Aoun or Nassrallah or even Hariri want you to believe.

Reality is that you're a stranger in your own country and that these forces are manipulating you / us like sheep.

Aoun is not ALL Good, neither is Nassrallah or Hariri so start thinking like a real lebanese and release your tightly squeezed little brain in order to grasp reality.

You cannot argue against one side and not turn a blind eye to the horrors accomplished by the side you're defending.

When you do this, then only can you claim yourself to be a true lebanese patriot. Otherwise, you're exactly part of the problem or what people here like to call an Iranian or Saudi Thug / Agent or whatever names you keep inventing everyday.

Default-user-icon FlameCatcher (Guest) 26 June 2013, 15:17

Mish Waten, I can show you at least 10 youtube videos of people being bullied by HA for filming in Dahyé.

FT, the "israel" spy excuse does not work. Their spies are also much more discreet and will not walk on the street with a camera in plain site... this is stupid of you to think this.

Dahyé is still a Lebanese territory and thus only LEBANESE LAW apply ... not Hezbollah law. If you believe Hezbollah should enjoy different Laws / Rights than the rest of Lebanon, then you cannot claim to be a LEBANESE patriot because you do not believe that all Lebanese are equal.

Regarding what happens in Solidere, this has nothing to do with Solidere but with individual real estate mafias that are tied to various groups including M8 and Mikati backed parties so don't even think of going there. They are not armed at least.

For the criminal and liar Nabih Berri, this is what Hezbollah has been doing in Saida : http://www.lebanondebate.com/details.aspx?id=137882

Thumb benzona 26 June 2013, 20:58

Flame catcher, youre right. Filming a Dahye is forbidden. Even discreetly. French TV was 1 week ago and got attacked. Filming is. Saïda or even, imagine, the moukhayyam of aïn el Helweh is no problem.

I've taken loads of pics in downtown Beirut, the only thing I was intercepted when doing it was the parliament. Yes, this building packed with corrupt politicians from all sides. What a coincidence...

Missing peace 27 June 2013, 01:33

poor mowaten and FT, pure propagandists... how come a french MP was taking photographs in dahiye and was kidnapped to be questioned? LOL.... there are HA police everywhere in dahiye as if it was not lebanon so tfeh on your stupid comments, poor brainwashed M8 propagandists....

Default-user-icon George (Guest) 26 June 2013, 09:20

I'm happy Assir is gone. But lets take emotion aside and admit like civilized people that the end never justifies the means.

Answer me this, why are people like Rifaat Eid still allowed to roam the streets? Does the law only apply to anyone that doesn't agree with with Hizb & Co.?

All arms should be controlled by the state. Its completely unnatural to for a country to have armed groups roaming the streets! We are turning into failed state like Libya, Pakistan and others.

We will only be strong when our central government and army is strong. Otherwise its the law of the jungle and everyone is entitled to arm themselves. I don't see any other way.

Default-user-icon George (Guest) 26 June 2013, 09:44

Sorry! You are totally right. Got a little too excited there and hoped he vanished. I'm still shocked how his brother went from one end of the spectrum to the other!

I totally agree regarding both sides fighting in Tripoli should be taken off the streets. Was just using Rifaat Eid as an example.

Thumb christianimmigrant 26 June 2013, 10:43

You might be right about Rifaat Eid but everyone knows that he only retaliates when these salafi idiots provoke him. If we want a free state and restore order, everyone should get disarmed but the Lebanese army. Fortunately though, Hezbollah focuses on something larger than what the rest of the Lebanese are busy doing. If we only agree to leave Hezbollah alone like it were between 1990 -2004, we will be fine. The sectarian clashes started only after Hariri was assassinated and Sunnis falsely laying blame on Hezbollah.

Default-user-icon George (Guest) 26 June 2013, 12:00

christianimmigrant - you say falsely blame Hibz, but half the country believes otherwise. Half the country also blame the Assad regime and their local allies for the Multiple deaths post 2005 of key politicians and security personnel. You can rightfully claim that Israel had a hand in all this, but that's your opinion and not everyone shares it.

You also state "Hezbollah focuses on something larger", do they have the mandate to drag Lebanon into something larger?

You see I are argue that a country can only protect itself if it had a strong central government and army. We need to build our institutions not hinder them (Goes to March 14 & March 8th).

Everyone needs to understand that Hizb should be integrated into the Lebanese chain of command and not the other way round. Then the Sunnis and others wouldn't feel threatened by Hizb and embrace them as they did pre-2005.

Thumb primesuspect 26 June 2013, 09:24

Dios mio... u really are in panic mode. ur shabi7a friends shot themselves in the foot.

I hope that u r only trying to manipulate the few idiots left, that u don't actually believe in ur lies.... ScArY fLaMtHrOwEr with a dash.

get ready to add another dash u masochist tonto. backup ur avatar, u r gona need it soon.

Thumb primesuspect 26 June 2013, 09:26

nobody wants a sunni shia war. people want hizballa to surrender their weapons to the army before more people get hurt.

Thumb primesuspect 26 June 2013, 09:28

and I add, people want justice for the dozen successful assassinations and the failed ones. May Chidiac wants her hand back and we want law and order and the application of the UN resolucions.

Thumb christianimmigrant 26 June 2013, 10:47

Hezbollah's arms became an issue when Sunnis driven by KSA and Qatar decided they want the Islamix Sharia to become the law of the State. Just ask Assir followers, Al Nosra and Al Qaeda. We rely on moderate Sunnis like Saad, Karami, Hoss to retrieve their stolen role and promote for temperate actions

Missing theobserver 26 June 2013, 10:05

Whoever is saying that hizbullah and amal helped the army, is taking the credits from what the army did. Like the army needed help in that operation !
Furthermore, it's building more and more tensions between sunnis and shia and fueling a civil war.
so hope this nonsense stops !

Default-user-icon George (Guest) 26 June 2013, 12:11

Its never deserved Mowaten.

Either we exit the civil war mentality or we will be perpetuate the circle of violence.

Thumb geha 26 June 2013, 13:51

Mowaten
those are the dillusions of seriously sick person.
man go seek help. so many lies in one sentence! go get help man!

Thumb geha 26 June 2013, 13:53

thank you m8 guys:
with only your above posts, you prove beyond any doubt who is sectarian and inciting strife.
actually you are no better than asir!
go and read again what you all said above, and SHUT UP from now n as you comments are full of sectarian hatred.

Missing lappeaudecouille 26 June 2013, 14:02

Josh Bustany what you're saying is not true. Malaysia and Indonesia have greatly contributed to their societies. Anyway going back to the core of this thread i tend to agree more with FT's reasoning however i do think that Stability comes when we are all abiding to the laws of the Lebanese constitution and not interfering with our neighboring countries' internal affairs.

Missing tarek_beiruti 26 June 2013, 15:15

Josh bustany, you are sick. Las time i checked, it was millions of syrians and iranians who lived in the west or outside their countries, not saudis and qataris. You view things very strangely. Neither iran, syria, Ksa or qatar are model states nor forces of good. Besides, malyasia, indonesia, turkey, bosnia, are succesful examples of muslim countries. You see, unlike you, i dont add the khaleej because even though their population is fed and mostly have nothing to complain about, i dont settle for that. In your mind, the sick baath is an example of progress. I wonder what would happen to you, a christian, if you tried to become a president in baathist syria and challenge bashar?

Missing tarek_beiruti 26 June 2013, 15:17

Also, bashar was allied to saudi arabia for most of the time he has ruled syria. Not only allied, but they were so close that a syrian who criticized saudi arabia online was hunted down and jailed for that, by the baathist rule. How can you ignore this?

Missing lappeaudecouille 26 June 2013, 17:54

the1phoenix. What you are proposing is quite complicated to tell you the truth. First don't you think that our army has to be a little more equipped to handle a coup d'etat? Second it would be seen as Maronites trying to take over the country since the head of the army is Christian Maronite. Third you would create civil unrest among our communities and our army would face severe military opposition from different militia sources. Conclusion is that we would be fighting each other all over again. History doesn't have to repeat itself.

Missing plantmorecedar 26 June 2013, 20:57

Flamethrower, I wish you would visit the area to see how much more polarized it has become. A couple of sources have told me they saw hizbullah bands on civilian dressed and LAF dressed individuals. Another indication is the spike in electricity generators before the attack, which has been usually contributed to increased use of communication devices, but of course, this could be argued as being operated by Assir and not hizbullah.

Missing plantmorecedar 26 June 2013, 20:57

Nobody has a clear account of how or why the attack happened. I unfortunately was not able to get a hold of the radio transcripts to determine what kind of transmission were being sent through. The only facts that are clear is that hizbullah were conducting sweeping operations in the periphery of the mosque, some "civilians" were found communicating with soldiers when a large majority were forced to evacuate the area, these particular individuals are not confirmed intelligence officers, but some of them did dress the hizbullah band which narrows down the possibilities

Thumb benzona 26 June 2013, 21:23

Euh monsieur... Il y a bien plus d'aracheurs de têtes chabiha syriens de libanais que quelques salafistes marginalisés qui ne représentent qu'une poignée de personnes.

About your TV média criticisme, c'est pour cela qu'on va à l'école. Pour développer un esprit critique et ne pas gober tout ce qu'on nous balance à la tronche.

You're a disappointment to many of us. It's YOUR generation that ruined Lebanon. We, the young ones were born during the war or after it. We didn't ask for any of this. The problem is that you keep choosing sides just like you did in 75. Most of the people want peace and justice. Hezbollah killed our PM in the post war era and committed dozens of assassinations and a war against Israel causing billions of losses and 1200 lost lives. They DON'T have the right to do it. Read the constitution.

Thumb benzona 26 June 2013, 21:23

Weapons need to be in the hands of the army. Justice needs to be served if you want to move one, because right, you, yes, you sir, are promoting the humiliation of the Lebanese Sunni and the loss of Lebanon.

Missing plantmorecedar 26 June 2013, 21:40

Flamethrower, I wish you would visit the area to see how much more polarized it has become. A couple of sources have told me they saw hizbullah bands on civilian dressed and LAF dressed individuals. Another indication is the spike in electricity generators before the attack, which has been usually contributed to increased use of communication devices, but of course, this could be argued as being operated by Assir and not hizbullah.

Missing plantmorecedar 26 June 2013, 21:40

Nobody has a clear account of how or why the attack happened. I unfortunately was not able to get a hold of the radio transcripts to determine what kind of transmission were being sent through. The only facts that are clear is that hizbullah were conducting sweeping operations in the periphery of the mosque, some "civilians" were found communicating with soldiers when a large majority were forced to evacuate the area, these particular individuals are not confirmed intelligence officers, but some of them did dress the hizbullah band which narrows down the possibilities