doug, what are you apologising for? did australians send these people on these death boats? These people smugglers are the same as terrorists. They kill innocent, desperate people, and they work freely in indonesia. They must be stopped and a government policy that allows all illegal migrates that arrive by boat, to eventually settle in australia, is only doing more harm by encouraging more to make the dangerous and stupid trip by boat.
how sad is it that lebanon has now become the same as Afghanistan and Iraq?
But is lebanon really the same? there is freedom of religion, political freedom, and free enterprise.
Then again, there is too much religious control, too much sectarianism, too much political freedom so that it morphs into dangerous political/sectarian extremism and too much corruption. All adds up to... too much foreign traitorous allegiances. aka no national identity.
the same danger that lead lebanon to war in the 70s is happening now. This time the psp is not siding with this national sovereign danger. The syrians are replacing the Palestinians.
Those that are dismissing Bassil and the many other political parties, are dismissing Lebanon as a republic! The republic of lebanon must control all its territory, must control who comes into the country and must be able to support the citizens of this country. There are people that mock lebanese nationalism and claim we are all arabs... We are lebanese. we are not western or eastern, not arab or persian, we are lebanese! The descendants of the Phoenicians, we are open, diverse, religiously, culturally and linguistically, but we are all Lebanese! Separate to Palestinians and syrians, very different to saudi, gulf arabs, Egyptians and the northern africans!
Control our borders! all lebanese return from syria and end this political corrupt class. Military coup is needed!
haile.selassie...Lebanon has never been like Afghanistan! Lebanese travel the world looking for commerce ever since the Phoenicians! Phoenicians were the first to circumnavigate africa, reach america, and even possibly the west coast of australia. not as refugees, but looking for commerce. Looking to make money and send back. Lebanese banks and the economy before the war was remarkable. no fake oil money. An educated people that made lebanon the pearl in the middle east. e.g. the concord, on its maiden flight, flew to rome then beirut and onto asia. no dubai or other fake desert oasis. Beirut, paris, London, new york etc were the glamorous cities. dubai and doha were deserts with tent dwelling Bedouins. Only Switzerland had more banks than lebanon! Afghanistan is the same as when Alexander the great invaded.
Migrants are different to refugees, just as Lebanon is very different to the rest of the "arab world".
"We are opposed to forming a national unity cabinet that is similar in composition to the Lebanese Parliament". Isn't that the definition of a national unity cabinet? Therefore you should say you are against national unity!
The situation calls for unity. You are calling for a non political, non unity government that will not have any political backing. What would that achieve? Nothing.
If a non political cabinet is what you and the Mustaqbul Party want, then why not call for a military cabinet? Support the LAF and allow them to enforce control over the entire nation. From dahie to tripoli, sidon to baalbek! i will support you in this request.
peace. without unity now during this dangerously divisive and violent moment... what do we have? A cabinet that no lebanese political party is represented and non have political responsibility?
We need a national unity gov or a military coup that relieves the Lebanese from our Politicians. A new constitution that gives the president more power to end this political deadlock! we could end up without a cabinet, or elected parliament forever and no one can do anything about it!
Texas and peace. You miss my point. Let them form a government! I don't give a crap if it's unity or not. Just form it. It will pass the parliament approval or it will not!
From what we have heard, the psp and kataeb will not approve a one sided government! There for it will not be approved! So what them? Do we wait another 6 months without a cabinet? How long do we wait before we relize that there will not be a cabinet? Who can break this deadlock? No one!!
This is the point. I'm not against anything. I just want a frigen government! There is no parliament. Parliament has expired and they haven't called new elections because the political powers have agreed to bypass elections! Is this democracy and constitutional? If it is than it is wrong and we need a new constitution with stronger Presidantial powers and the only way I see it happening is with a military coup!
Haile.selassie... your comment that I am a "tignorant typical Lebanese" is unfortunate coming from someone that obviously appreciates Selassie of ethiopia. phoenicians were never part of iraq. That was assiriya! Phoenicians were tyre, Sidon, Beirut and byblos cities states that were seafaring empire that challegened Rome through Hannibal from carthage in Tunisia. Why do you dismiss and mock this possibility? Do you mock the fact that Jews have right to jerusalem? They had been banished for 2000 years before they returned.
I don't claim that commerce is a gene, but rather argue that Lebanese have always been significant contributers to commerce, banking and trade since the time of their ancestors, the Phoenicians. This is a difference between Lebanese and afganis.
Dozens of Lebanese Illegal Migrants Drown, 18 Rescued while Trying to Sail from Indonesia to Australia
27 September 2013, 15:56doug, what are you apologising for? did australians send these people on these death boats? These people smugglers are the same as terrorists. They kill innocent, desperate people, and they work freely in indonesia. They must be stopped and a government policy that allows all illegal migrates that arrive by boat, to eventually settle in australia, is only doing more harm by encouraging more to make the dangerous and stupid trip by boat.
Dozens of Lebanese Illegal Migrants Drown, 18 Rescued while Trying to Sail from Indonesia to Australia
27 September 2013, 16:05how sad is it that lebanon has now become the same as Afghanistan and Iraq?
But is lebanon really the same? there is freedom of religion, political freedom, and free enterprise.
Then again, there is too much religious control, too much sectarianism, too much political freedom so that it morphs into dangerous political/sectarian extremism and too much corruption. All adds up to... too much foreign traitorous allegiances. aka no national identity.
Bassil Calls for Halting Entry of Syrian Refugees: They Threaten Lebanese Entity
27 September 2013, 16:45the same danger that lead lebanon to war in the 70s is happening now. This time the psp is not siding with this national sovereign danger. The syrians are replacing the Palestinians.
Those that are dismissing Bassil and the many other political parties, are dismissing Lebanon as a republic! The republic of lebanon must control all its territory, must control who comes into the country and must be able to support the citizens of this country. There are people that mock lebanese nationalism and claim we are all arabs... We are lebanese. we are not western or eastern, not arab or persian, we are lebanese! The descendants of the Phoenicians, we are open, diverse, religiously, culturally and linguistically, but we are all Lebanese! Separate to Palestinians and syrians, very different to saudi, gulf arabs, Egyptians and the northern africans!
Control our borders! all lebanese return from syria and end this political corrupt class. Military coup is needed!
Bassil Calls for Halting Entry of Syrian Refugees: They Threaten Lebanese Entity
27 September 2013, 17:03the1phoenix... I'm impressed with your post. Agree 100%
Dozens of Lebanese Illegal Migrants Drown, 18 Rescued while Trying to Sail from Indonesia to Australia
27 September 2013, 17:25haile.selassie...Lebanon has never been like Afghanistan! Lebanese travel the world looking for commerce ever since the Phoenicians! Phoenicians were the first to circumnavigate africa, reach america, and even possibly the west coast of australia. not as refugees, but looking for commerce. Looking to make money and send back. Lebanese banks and the economy before the war was remarkable. no fake oil money. An educated people that made lebanon the pearl in the middle east. e.g. the concord, on its maiden flight, flew to rome then beirut and onto asia. no dubai or other fake desert oasis. Beirut, paris, London, new york etc were the glamorous cities. dubai and doha were deserts with tent dwelling Bedouins. Only Switzerland had more banks than lebanon! Afghanistan is the same as when Alexander the great invaded.
Migrants are different to refugees, just as Lebanon is very different to the rest of the "arab world".
Dozens of Lebanese Illegal Migrants Drown, 18 Rescued while Trying to Sail from Indonesia to Australia
27 September 2013, 17:30speakfreely... True, I mean no disrespect to the deceased and their families. May God rest their souls.
Geagea Demands A Technocrat Cabinet, Says Any Government Formed by Suleiman, Salam Is Legitimate
27 September 2013, 17:53"We are opposed to forming a national unity cabinet that is similar in composition to the Lebanese Parliament". Isn't that the definition of a national unity cabinet? Therefore you should say you are against national unity!
The situation calls for unity. You are calling for a non political, non unity government that will not have any political backing. What would that achieve? Nothing.
If a non political cabinet is what you and the Mustaqbul Party want, then why not call for a military cabinet? Support the LAF and allow them to enforce control over the entire nation. From dahie to tripoli, sidon to baalbek! i will support you in this request.
Geagea Demands A Technocrat Cabinet, Says Any Government Formed by Suleiman, Salam Is Legitimate
27 September 2013, 18:27peace. without unity now during this dangerously divisive and violent moment... what do we have? A cabinet that no lebanese political party is represented and non have political responsibility?
We need a national unity gov or a military coup that relieves the Lebanese from our Politicians. A new constitution that gives the president more power to end this political deadlock! we could end up without a cabinet, or elected parliament forever and no one can do anything about it!
Geagea Demands A Technocrat Cabinet, Says Any Government Formed by Suleiman, Salam Is Legitimate
27 September 2013, 19:15Texas and peace. You miss my point. Let them form a government! I don't give a crap if it's unity or not. Just form it. It will pass the parliament approval or it will not!
From what we have heard, the psp and kataeb will not approve a one sided government! There for it will not be approved! So what them? Do we wait another 6 months without a cabinet? How long do we wait before we relize that there will not be a cabinet? Who can break this deadlock? No one!!
This is the point. I'm not against anything. I just want a frigen government! There is no parliament. Parliament has expired and they haven't called new elections because the political powers have agreed to bypass elections! Is this democracy and constitutional? If it is than it is wrong and we need a new constitution with stronger Presidantial powers and the only way I see it happening is with a military coup!
Dozens of Lebanese Illegal Migrants Drown, 18 Rescued while Trying to Sail from Indonesia to Australia
27 September 2013, 19:36Haile.selassie... your comment that I am a "tignorant typical Lebanese" is unfortunate coming from someone that obviously appreciates Selassie of ethiopia. phoenicians were never part of iraq. That was assiriya! Phoenicians were tyre, Sidon, Beirut and byblos cities states that were seafaring empire that challegened Rome through Hannibal from carthage in Tunisia. Why do you dismiss and mock this possibility? Do you mock the fact that Jews have right to jerusalem? They had been banished for 2000 years before they returned.
I don't claim that commerce is a gene, but rather argue that Lebanese have always been significant contributers to commerce, banking and trade since the time of their ancestors, the Phoenicians. This is a difference between Lebanese and afganis.