المطارنة الموارنة: الزواج مؤسسة دينية ومن يتزوج مدنيا عليه تعديل زواجه ويتزوج دينيا
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اعلن المطارنة الموارنة ان الزواج مؤسسة دينية وانه على كل "من يتزوج مدنياً عليه تعديل زواجه ويتزوج دينياً، مشيرين الى ان للزواج المدني، وجهين، دستوري وديني.
وفي البيان الصادر اثر اجتماعهم الدوري الشهري، برئاسة البطريرك الماروني الكاردينال مار بشارة بطرس الراعي، في بكركي، الاربعاء، اوضح المطارنة ان دستورياً، اقرار الزواج المدني ان كان الزاميا او اختياريا يوجب على السلطة اللبنانية تعديل المادة التاسعة من الدستور.
يُشار الى ان المادة 9 من الدستور تنص على حرية الاعتقاد والرأي لدى اللبنانيين.
اما دينيا، فلفت المطارنة الى ان "السيد المسيح رفع هذه المؤسسة الالهية الطبيعية الى رتبة سر مقدس ولا يجوز ان يحل الزواج المدني محل هذا السر". ودعوا "المؤمنين المرتبطين مدنيا ان يصححوا وضعهم ويعقدوا زواجا كنسيا كي يتمكنوا من المشاركة في اسرار الكنيسة الاخرى".
ويثير موضوع الزواج المدني جدلا في لبنان في الفترة الاخيرة، وتباينا بين موقف سليمان وميقاتي. وسبق لسليمان ان اعلن تأييده لاقرار القانون، بينما اعتبر ميقاتي ان "لا طائل من مناقشة هذا الموضوع".
ولا يمكن عقد زواج مدني في لبنان، لكن يتم الاعتراف بزواج مدني معقود في الخارج. وتنظم كل طائفة من الطوائف ال18 احوال افرادها الشخصية.
ويطالب المجتمع المدني منذ زمن باقرار قانون الزواج المدني الاختياري ليس لتسهيل الزواج بين اشخاص ينتمون الى اديان مختلفة فحسب، انما ايضا بين اشخاص قد يكونون من دين واحد لكن لا يؤمنون بالارتباط الديني.
لكن الجدل حول الموضوع عاد بعد اعلان نضال درويش وخلود سكرية، وهما مسلمان من مذهبين مختلفين، انهما عقدا زواجا مدنيا في لبنان استنادا الى نص مرسوم من عهد الانتداب الفرنسي ينص على ضمان حقوق الافراد ويشير الى الزواج المدني الفرنسي.
وعن قانون الانتخاب، توقف الاباء في اجتماعهم الشهري، عند النقاشات الدائرة حوله، داعين الفرقاء إىل ان يتوافقوا على اختيار القانون الامثل للانتخابات الذي يؤمن تمثيلا صحيحا لجميع اللبنانيين ويحقق المناصفة ويصون العيش المشترك.
ونبهوا الى ان المهل الدستورية أصبحت ضيقة.
يُذكر انه وعلى الرغم من الاجتماعات والاتصالات بين الافرقاء وجلسات اللجان النيابية الفرعية، لم يتمكن السياسيون من التوصل الى اتفاق حول قانون الانتخاب.
وأعرب المطارنة الموارنة في اجتماعهم الدوري، عن قلقهم من "مظاهر الامن المكشوف وازدياد الجريمة والخطف وظاهرة الامن بالتراضي ومعاداة الجيش والقوى العسكرية والامنية".
واستنكروا "بشدة الاعتداء على الجيش في عرسال"، وطالبوا الدولة بتطبيق القوانين بحزم وحضوا اللبنانيين على "احترام المؤسسات العسكرية والامنية الشرعية اذ يعود اليها وحدها حق وواجب توفير الامن والحماية للمواطنين".
كما اعتبروا "ان النقاشات السياسية يجب الا تستأثر بالمشهد العام وتنسي السلطات المعنية شؤون المواطنين الحياتية وفي طليعتها الازمة الاقتصادية والمعيشية الخانقة ومشكلة الكهرباء".
وقضى النقيب بيار بشعلاني والرقيب أول إبراهيم زهرمان، الجمعة، في كمين مسلح، تعرضا له ومجموعة من عناصر الجيش اللبناني، في بلدة عرسال البقاعية، اثناء توقيف حالد احمد حميد المطلوب إلى العدالة بتهمة القيام بعدة عمليات إرهابية.
وفضلاً عن بشعلاني وزهرمان، ادى الاشتباك الى مقتل المطلوب وجرح عدد من العسكريين وتعرض بعض الآليات العسكرية لأضرار جسيمة، بالإضافة إلى إصابة عدد من المسلحين.

Not everyone can afford to go to Cyprus (Plane ticket, hotel, living expenses etc...). I agree that we have a lot of problem like no electricity, no jobs, no salaries etc..but why should we accept denying us this basic human right issue that doesn't cost the government any money to fix??? the Church and Mosque will lose a lot of money and that's their real objection...time for complete separation of state and clergy...

All issues are essential, the lebanese people should go after all issues, not just the most important ones, especially given that the most important issues are the hardest to solve and we shouldn't be expected to wait for all important issues to be solved for the smaller issues, FlameThrower, throw yourself with your usual retardes comments

I love God and His religions but I do hate clergy. They are the worst kind of merchants. Civil marriage is taking business away from them. They use and abuse God, their unique selling proposition.
Solve this problem and all the other problems will be solved. Yes to a regular state, and no to a secular state.

yes they must complement it in religious ceremony because actually they dont care about unifying the Nation they care about earning cash thrue ceremonies so they can pay some kids and have an affair those pervert pedophiles!!!

well if you advocate a civil society, like i thought you usually do in other posts, then that is a pretty good first step towards that goal.
like allouchi said, it wont cost the government anything. it will actually bring in money as you will have to pay court and municipality charges and whatever else they can think of.
it will also weaken the religious establishment that has a choke-hold on the country, which in turn could move politics themselves toward a more secular environment.

im not sying you dont. im just saying that putting the issue at the bottom of the list and saying we should do the others first is counter productive.
again, this is a measure that will cost nothing, bring in money, and reduce religious hegemony in the country.
for once everyone is on the same page and appalled by the same thing. take the chance, before the other issues you mentioned become so grave that people indeed decide to put it on the back-burner.
right now, any achievement the lebanese society can get, they should go for it. we have everything we need to make a great country, but absolutely nothing to show for it

FT= fake on secularism.
just scratch his skin and all the secularism appears :)

@FT,
Challenging the law on civil marriage would move this country away from sectarianism and allow us to better address our basic issues.
The further we are from secularism, the harder it is for our state to function effectively.

M8 gvt didn t do much to improve the quality of life... busy they are to save their a...!

Someone tell these bishops they have no right to tell other individuals how they should marry. Those that want a religious ceremony, then do it, and those that do not want it don't have to do it.
The state should stay out of our bedrooms.

Les religieux doivent naturellement plaider pour le mariage religieux. c'est normal, le contraire seraient complètement absurde. d'autre part la liberté comme droit acquis par tous les citoyens, et le statut de regime laique qui sépare l'état de la religion doit laisser le choix aux jeunes de decider si suivre ou non la recomondation de l'eglise.

Those who Marry in Civil Union Must Complement it with Religious Ceremony: these mafiosi gangs do not represent the church. Those gangster disguised with Jesus Christ dress do not want only civil marriage so they can still keep the wedding and divorce business that bring them MILLIONS & Millions $$$$$ every year. But the problem these million of $ are going straight to their pocket, to their cars, their cigars. No one wonder how every clerics drive the last mercedes with chauffeur. and then when a simple student who can't afford the money to continue it studying year, get kicked out the next day. Unfortunatly this mafiosi gang are worst then our politicians

Forgot to add that the student that got kicked out was at the university of kaslik and another one from Antoura. woule tfouuuuuuu at those clercics disguised in Jesus Christ. Jesus must be disgusted of what he left behind

civil marriage lays the question of the civil status that is inexistant in lebanon
why aren't we equal as lebanese in marriage, divorce, birth and inheritance. its time to stop all that

That's three for three against civil marriage, and it is apparent it is about the money. If they want to dispense with that theory, they should come out with a policy that either limits the money that a clergyman can receive, or better yet, eliminate any funds changing hands.
Not one sect is better than another in this regard. It is apparent they want to control and meddle in all aspects of Lebanese society.

and then why do they say that they need to have a religious ceremony also? They are throwing a bone to keep their power--nothing more. You have to learn how to interpret things when money is involved.
"Marriage is a holy union however and civil marriage should not replace the religious one,” said the council." This statement kills what altruism you may have gotten from the article.

Read again dude--second paragraph, they use the word MUST.
“Those who marry in a civil union MUST complement it was a religious ceremony.”
To me, that doesn't suggest an option and my 'throwing them a bone' comment is right on. It should be either a religious ceremony, a civil one, or both---give the people the option, not the clergy.

OF TOPIC, actually my issue in this article is the spelling mistakes the author made in this article, he needs to go back to school or use spell check. :-) p.s: regarding civil or other type of marriage, i think its upto every individual to make that decision , not the government or the religious figures .point finale lol

Flamer- if civil marriage is not important to YOU, it does not make it any less important to the LEABNESE people. Your opinion is noted but the idea here (which you will never understand) is basic human rights are that you are of free mind and spirit to be able to be with someone you love withouth having to bow down to any religious institution. Civil marriage is about human freedom.
try this on for size and see if it fits. "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"`Evelyn Beatrice Hall
when you truly understand the profound meaning of that statement then and onl then can you start to understand how to help move the country in the right direction. starting with at least not discounting people rights on who and how they want get married and maybe, just maybe, you can realize how terrible the orthodox law is.

lol FT claiming he is secular and ask those who want civil marriage to go to cyprus and shut up! waw, secular indeed the little sectarian FPMer....

"They said ok u can have a civil marriage, but you should also complement it with a religious one. "
they say "must" not should! forcing people to have a religious marriage.
family laws must be secular and civil! heritage, divorce should not depend on the religion but on a civil law equal to all...
but of course it would weaken the power of the religious people so none will accept it!

Tayyeb layko? I have a compromise: those who choose to go for a civil marriage pay a tax that goes to the different religious authorities. This way the religious authorities get the money that they lost on due to the civil marriage ou bi 7éllo 3an rabbna.