ستة قتلى و17 جريحا على الاقل بينهم عسكريين اثر تجدد الإشتباكات في طرابلس

“Military Committee to Avenge the Victims of the Tripoli Bombings,”

The latest "nom de plume" for the KSA patronage of violence in Lebanon.

this is the expected outcome when the state is absent.

the1phoenix, please bro, spare us the simplicity of your argument. The majority of Muslims in Lebanon want as much a better life and future and desire to move into the 21st century as you say. When you use expressions like our muslim siblings have done to this country, sorry but you speak with a tone of arrogance which you really are not entitled to especially as a Christians Lebanese because every sect is guilty in contributing to where Lebanon is today. I myself wouldn't trust one bit the workings of Dr Geaga even to this day. Now speaking of what some muslims did for this country. There are muslims that sacrificed their blood from foreign occupiers of this land and continue to do so to this day. I know you don't see it that way. For Lebanon to move forward it will have to include every region and every one, further challenges will have to be over come. That is no reason to talk down about others, and my apologies if I read too much in your comment. good day.

deliver ali eid to judiciary.

Thephoenix, so what you are saying is that when christians fight each other, it's the fault of non-christians but if muslims fight each other (never mind that alawites arent muslims to begin with) then its the fault of muslims and islam perhaps. Is this what you are saying in your rants? Are you also suggesting that muslims didnt contribute to lebanon after all the soldiers, business, investments, export and tourism muslims have secured? If yes then you are indeed an arrogant liar. I wont comment on the rest of your rants, much of which is actually pure lies and missinformation.

+1000 for the comparaison with blowing up churches.
Without sunni resistance, shia would use their demographic weight and declare Lebanon a shia republic part of wilayat faqih...

to the1phoenix, Honolulu,cityboy, and whoever wants to hear:
all your above comment are correct ... and not totally correct.
you see the main problem at hand is creating strife, whether in 1975 or now. and what is happening now is the same as what was happening then, even clearer.
the ones backing murderers for the twin bombings want strife, which could have been avoided by the arrest of the murderers.

Tripoli one of the jewels of Lebanon, hopefully this fighting will come to an end soon. There has to be a greater political will to put an end to it now. No more obstruction from the outside regarding Tripoli. This should really be a very easy situation to heal, they are Lebanese living in the same city, come on!

darn even though I have to run, just had to comment on this. I like the fact that you are suggesting a formula to revamp things. I have never really given thought of what would be a better system. Your idea is one possibility and perhaps that is a challenge for me and others on here to come up with different formulas or perhaps modification to yours. I am not sure though that the muslims would really care to give up all those key ministerial positions. With the exception of the finance you have given the key ones to a Christian minister. perhaps a rotation would be more acceptable. I would also like to say that it doesn't matter what position is held and by whom because agree or not, I think our current ministers have in a sense guns to their heads by foreign powers and this wont change if it is a Christian minister. Now I know we can argue day in and out who is holding that gone. story of Lebanon today.

crazy who thumbed you down for making suggestions.

Phoenix darling you have been on this Christian white horse lately to come to save Lebanon. When Christians ruled , Christians became rich, their areas developed, and corruption was inherited from president to the next. Yes they ruled great for Christians.

Finally some posts worth reading - great discussion. I've been avoiding posting or contributing because of the spam from mckini, morotten, and FT's many accounts.

Not a bad point Lebpatriot. Some truth to it.

There is definitely a social inequality in Lebanon that has built up since independence. You see it in access to education, infrastructure, etc.

irrespective of stupid comments (lebpatriot777) from people who do not know how to read, I agree to the idea you are trying to put forth:
actually, if the president is Christian, he should have enough power to act in his position. same for the prime minister and for the head of parliament.
but that will not solve the issue at hand: it is currently the absence of the state in the presence of a well armed militia, supporting terrorists (like ali eid and samaha), that is driving the country tfast towards strife.
this needs an army chief who has balls to deal with it, and not an army chief begging this terrorist militia to be elected the next president.

Thephoenix, when christians had power, they sliced of the genitals of muslim men at checkpoints, raped muslim women and carved out crosses on the bodies of old muslims. Neither the lebanese muslim nor the lebanese christian has a clean history and both have fought their own as well as others. Dont blame others for when christians fought eachother and dont blame others for the christian on christian hate of today. Either learn from history or step away, dont rewrite it in this disgusting way making christians innocent and nonworthy of any blame even when they comitt the most horrible of crimes. Nope sorry, the christians were not pure nor succesful in taking care of of lebanon, neither are the muslims. Lebanon will never be succesful as long as the same civil war players are in control with their parties. As if aoun, geagea and the gemayels have less blood on their hands than others!!!

the1phoenix's argument in a nutshell: I love my Muslim siblings, but they are too backwards to rule Lebanon. Christians are much more enlightened.

How open-minded.

-From somebody raised in a Christian family.

You have no idea what your talking about. Just full of hate for Assad an Hizbollah. That's not going to get you anywhere Gabby.

Stop with the herd mentality and understand that there will be no winners in these sectarian wars except some politicians and their foreign masters.