14 آذار زارت بري للبحث بمشروع قانون الإنتخابات دون نتائج ملموسة لحل قريب
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زار وفد من 14 آذار الأربعاء رئيس مجلس النواب نبيه بري، وذلك لإبلاغه " اعتراضهم على مواصلة بعض اللجان النيابية جلساتها، في ظل غياب أعضائها من "14 آذار" وللبحث بمشروع قانون الانتخابات"، بحسب ما افادت معلومات صحافية.
وبعد الاجتماع ساعة ونصف ساعة، قال النائب مروان حماده باسم الوفد: "كانت الجلسة مع الرئيس بري مطولة ومفيدة، وقدمنا وجهة نظرنا في ضوء المذكرة التي حملناها، واستمعنا بالتفاصيل الى وجهة نظره، وللحديث صلة قريبا".
وردا على سؤال عن صيغة الحل للجان والجلسات قال "إن الحديث مع الرئيس بري أوسع من ذلك".
وكانت قد أشارت صحيفة "السفير" في عددها الصادر الأربعاء الى أن وفد من 14 آذار سيزور بري في عين التينةوابلاغه اعتراضهم على مواصلة بعض اللجان النيابية جلساتها، في ظل غياب أعضائها من" 14 آذار".
وأفادت الصحيفة عينها أن " بري سيشدد خلال اللقاء على وجوب لمّ الشمل النيابي والوطني، وسيحث قوى المعارضة على إنهاء مقاطعتها للحكومة والحوار ومجلس النواب، والعودة الى الحوار".
وأضافت أن "بري سيؤكد للوفد ضرورة ان تعقد اللجنة الفرعية النيابية المعنية بمناقشة قانون الانتخاب اجتماعاتها في مجلس النواب، لان انعقادها في منزل هذا النائب او ذاك كما طرحت المعارضة هو امر مخالف للمنطق وغير مألوف".
وفي السياق نفسه، لفتت صحيفة "النهار" في عددها الصادر الأربعاء الى أن "قوى 14 آذار ستبحث مع بري في عين التينة بمشروع قانون الإنتخابات"، بينما لفتت صحيفة "الأخبار" الى أن " الوفد سيطلب من بري ايجاد صيغة لاجتماع اللجنة المصغرة لقانون الانتخاب".
وكانت قوى 14 آذار قد وافقت على استثناء قاعدة مقاطعتها الجلسات النيابية لحين استقالة الحكومة، وذلك من خلال "إعادة إحياء عمل اللجنة النيابية المصغرة"، بحسب ما افادت معلومات صحافية.
وأشارت معلومات صحفية في عددها الصادر الاثنين، الى أن " قوى 14 آذار قررت الموافقة على استثناء لقاعدة مقاطعتها الجلسات والاجتماعات النيابية الى حين استقالة الحكومة، يتمثل في اعادة إحياء عمل اللجنة النيابية المصغرة لدرس اقتراحات قوانين الانتخاب".
وكانت اللجان النيابية المشتركة توافقت في تشرين الأول الفائت في مجلس النواب على لجنة مصغرة لمتابعة ملف الانتخابات وبحث الاختلافات حوله من اجل التوصل الى مشروع قانون يتوافق عليه كافة الافرقاء.
يذكر ان اللجنة المصغرة التي يرأسها نائب رئيس المجلس تضم عن قوى 14 آذار النواب: سامي الجميل، جورج عدوان، احمد فتفت وسيرج طورسركيسيان، وعن قوى 8 آذار النواب: آلان عون، علي بزي، علي فياض، آغوب بقرادونيان، الى جانب عضو "جبهة النضال الوطني" النائب أكرم شهيب.
وتقضي مهمتها المصغرة بدرس مشاريع القوانين المقدمة ومعرفة نقاط الاختلاف من اجل التوصل الى قانون انتخابي يرضي كافة الافرقاء.
يُشار الى ان لجنة بكركي التي تمثل الكتل المسيحية الاربعة (الكتائب والقوات والتيار الوطني الحر والمردة) لم تتفق بعد على طرح يرضي كافة اطرافها، وقد شهدت الآونة الاخيرة مناوشات بين اعضائها حيث تم تبادل الاتهامات في الالتفاف على "لجنة بكركي".
ويُذكر ان مجلس الوزراء، أقر مطلع آب الفائت، قانونا للإنتخاب يعتمد النسبية في 13 دائرة إنتخابية.(بيروت: دائرتان، الجنوب: دائرتان، البقاع: 3 دوائر، الشمال: 3 دوائر، وجبل لبنان: 3 دوائر).
ويقسم مشروع 14 آذار المقترح المناطق على الشكل التالي: بيروت 7 دوائر، البقاع الغربي – راشيا دائرتان، بعلبك – الهرمل 4 دوائر، زحلة 3 دوائر، النبطية دائرة، بنت جبيل دائرة، جزين دائرة ، صور دائرتان، صيدا دائرة، الزهراني دائرة، مرجعيون – حاصبيا دائرتان، البترون دائرة، الكورة دائرة، المنية – الضنية دائرة، بشري دائرة، زغرتا دائرة، طرابلس 3 دوائر، عكار 3 دوائر، الشوف 3 دوائر، المتن الشمالي 3 دوائر، بعبدا 3 دوائر، جبيل دائرة، عاليه دائرتان، كسروان دائرتان. ويراوح عدد النواب عن كل دائرة بين اثنين وثلاثة.
في حين ان "اللقاء الاوثوذكسي" ينص على ان كل طائفة تنتخب ممثليها، وان تيم اعتماد النسبية على اساس لبنان دائرة انتخابية واحدة.
وكانت قوى 14 آذار قد قاطعت كل الجلسات والأعمال النيابية وذلك "خوفاً على امن نوابها"، و"رفضها عقد اجتماعات مع حكومة الرئيس نجيب ميقاتي" الذي اتهمته بـ"الاغتيال السياسي لرئيس فرع المعلومات في الأمن الداخلي اللواء وسام الحسن والتغطيات على مجرمي اغتيال رئيس الحكومة رفيق الحريري".
وطالبت المعارضة حكومة (رئيس الحكومة ) نجيب ميقاتي بالاستقالة كي تعاود نشاطاتها السياسية والمشاركة بطاولة الحوار والاجتماعات النيابية.
09:14 ,2012 كانون الأول 05
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berry is losing ground each day and with it any hope for the after bashar period.
10:48 ,2012 كانون الأول 05
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The work of the government must go on despite the tantrums of March 14. Holding Lebanon hostage should not be rewarded and the public largely agrees ... they want stability.
With this boycott of government and the revelations concerning Saqr and Hariri the prospects for March 14 in the coming elections has reached its peak and is now declining rapidly ...
The public is worried about economic and social deterioration in regards to the world wide recession. They want politicians to get Lebanon back on track, not to be supporting Syrian carnage and domestic instability.
11:07 ,2012 كانون الأول 05
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I do not know where you live, but in my circles everyone approves what m14 is doing :)
11:27 ,2012 كانون الأول 05
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Then you should get out more and talk to the people that struggle to keep their businesses going, put food on the table and pay their bills.
11:40 ,2012 كانون الأول 05
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what a sad circle then.
as mckinl says, get out of it and open your mind. be more critical with regards to the ones you support. do not acquiesce every single thing they do without reflecting on it. In which way mingling in the Syrian affairs the way Hariri and Saqr did, is a good thing for Lebanon?
Lebanon is a democracy, the other parties have a right to exist. In this day and time, dialogue is the only way out.
Except if you want Lebanon to live through another civil war.
16:04 ,2012 كانون الأول 05
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it is clear to everybody that his m8 cabinet is the biggest disaster on Lebanon.
it is this cabinet that drove our economy to this level by their actions or should I say inactions?
people are not disoriented and know perfectly who is the roots cause of our situation. they have not forgotten all that happened with this cabinet.
so what m14 is doing now puts the country on the right track ultimately.
12:15 ,2012 كانون الأول 05
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could you tell me which politician is busy trying to solve the economic and social problems? i have heard none whose priority is such! all busy about the electoral laws and the "dialogue"!
so please don t say the gvt is working in that direction because beirut has now become the second most expensive city after dubai but the salaries are pocket money. did the gvt say they are looking for solutions? NO! they even laugh at the unions who ask for a solution...
internet and telecoms are the most expensive! even in dubai where the salaries are high internet is cheap and offers way more than here!
is the gvt busy in reforming the state and looking for solution to stop the waste of public money? NO.
no one is tackling those issues...
13:57 ,2012 كانون الأول 05
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well i am not an M14er so useless to criticize my posts through that lens ... not like you boasting to be a sheep FPMer....
criticize M14 all you want but do not associate me with them. binary thinking as you criticized others to have Lol! i am against you so of course i m M14! hahaha! your way of thinking is rather shallow, no wonder from a orangina lover....
and you must agree that in dubai internet is faster and offers more for a vey low price...so M8 did nothing to improve a reliable and fast internet for all... neither did M14.
13:03 ,2012 كانون الأول 05
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should there be a more balanced gvt? maybe yes. but for that to happen, the other camp should sit at the dialogue table. how can there be a national unity, balanced gvt if there is no understanding in the first place?
the boldness of the other camp is nurtured by the assumption that assad will fall. this is playing with the fate of lebanon. a very dangerous game to be played for those who tag themselves as the bearers of the cedar revolution.
13:11 ,2012 كانون الأول 05
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we cannot blame M14 for blocking the gvt while M8 has been doing so when M14 was in power.
but because there are security issues means that nothing else can be done? i disagree here.
no politicians are talking about socio economic problems because it is not in their interests! all they want is to solve THEIR personnal interest before those of the citizens!
13:46 ,2012 كانون الأول 05
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i do not agree, mr. peace.
the only thing that i've seen M14 doing till now is try to crash Hezb. anything else? is that the only thing on their agenda? any socio-economical programs? now i am not saying that M8 has one either.
i am just talking abt right now, a very delicate 'right now'. yes because of security issues. and u calling urself peace should be more sensitive to it.
if we keep on playing the 'blame' game, we will remain forever in a deadlock and create vacuum for more extremism. there is not a single soul in lebanese politics that shouldnt be blamed, from one side of the spectrum to the other.
the only solution is turn our attention back to lebanon, all of the sides, and wear off the crisis together. that means national dialogue.
13:50 ,2012 كانون الأول 05
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yes right, that s why i insisted NO ONE be it M14 or M8! no one is busy solving people s problems.
but concerning national "dialogue" i agree with M14 that if hezbis do not want to discuss about their arsenal then why have a dialogue if you cannot discuss about ALL the issues....
14:06 ,2012 كانون الأول 05
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LOL poor FT... you d rather post this to the moustaqbal internet website rather than to me!
funny how you tell that i, peace, arm the FSA! LOL... you are making a transfer it seems so the only remedy is psychaitric hospital...
you cannot deny that M8 blocked the country... so why criticize M14 for that? nothing is different. both sides are mocking lebanese people... but it only proves how brainwash you are by not accepting from others what your beloved camp did too!
as i do not belong to any camp i can see it, not you... LOL!
at least i agree with what aoun used to say about the syrian regime and that it has to fall before he accepted to be at the orders of hezbis and assad...i guess aoun was the scum of the scum when he criticized fiercly the assad family and wanted his removal for the good of lebanon...
not you having alzheimer problems....
17:17 ,2012 كانون الأول 05
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that is exactly what i say mr FT: if you think you are insulting me by insulting M14 waste your energy at the task coz it won t do me anything...
i am not M14 because i have the ability to criticize them and already did...
but you are sooooooo blinded by your stupid M8 propaganda that you are not able to criticize them!
and it is sooo funny to show your double M8 standards and proving how stupid M8 can be when faced with its own contradictions.... they are masters in that game!
14:01 ,2012 كانون الأول 05
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@peace : i will not enter in the whole debate of the Hezb arms now. i will just say that i do not like the fact either. do i feel threatened by them? no. i am not impressed by LF and FM propaganda. but i do think there should be a serious project to slowly disarm them intelligently and taking regional situation into consideration.
you know, one side says Hezb participated in the assassination of m14 politicians; the other side says that FM gave the green light to the 2006 war against Hezb, 2007 palestinian-army conflict, etc. etc.
everyone is to blame.
so now just think for your country first and get ur asses on the dialogue table. we are sick and tired.
14:12 ,2012 كانون الأول 05
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as long as hezbis have the decision of war and peace they are the biggest threat to lebanon! only the gvt has the right of that not a political party! they incite other parties to re arm as they see that hezbis are not blamed for that and the gvt agrees that a political party has an arsenal ...
would you agree if other political parties can do so? i guess not...
as long as they do not want to discuss about their arsenal i don t see the purpose of a dialogue as their arsenal is the core of the instability and division in lebanon.... all the rest are details easily soalvable!
14:37 ,2012 كانون الأول 05
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partly true.
but if you try to confront them head to head, it wont work. and if it works, that means another civil war.
now, when you talk abt decision of war and peace, u mean rhetorically, right? b/c i do not believe that israel started a war in 2006, b/c hezb went beyond the fence. it was a well calculated thing, with the backing of the US and probably those who were in power at the time in lebanon.
u always seem to forget that they are part of the lebanese society. they are not some foreign entity in the country. they are not the 'palestinians' of the 70's. they are lebanese.
the arsenal is also closely linked to israel. in case of attack by israel, wld our nice little army (which is sadly attacked by the other camp - what a sad truth) be able to defend lebanon?
i am throwing disparate ideas just to show that it is not all white/black.
15:18 ,2012 كانون الأول 05
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"the arsenal is also closely linked to israel. in case of attack by israel, wld our nice little army"
a true patriot would give the army all the arsenal it needs and be under its command not the other way round..
in 2006 only hezbis fought israel, the army was told to stand still to prevent israel to target the whole country.
hezbis even if "lebanese" pledge allegiance to the iranian revolution and call themselves islamic resistance not lebanese resistance!
"but if you try to confront them head to head, it wont work" of course, that is why M14 is boycottng this farce of a dialogue...
14:40 ,2012 كانون الأول 05
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...and another thing: did hariri acknowledge the arsenal or not? and now changing his mind?
its very complicated and does not boil down to: we boycott and put the country to a standstill because they dont want to discuss their arsenal.
15:20 ,2012 كانون الأول 05
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everyone agreed on hezbi work to liberate the south; but now they still hold on their arms under false pretexts!
14:45 ,2012 كانون الأول 05
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the attitude of m14 is purely political. they want to be back in power at all cost. and banking on assad's fall to do so, while buying time as they put the country in turmoil. its criminal.
and who says that once assad falls, it will be crystal clear who will reign over syria? who said the war there will end and not become nastier and really sectarian?
14:46 ,2012 كانون الأول 05
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the attitude of m14 is purely political. they want to be back in power at all cost. and banking on assad's fall to do so, while buying time as they put the country in turmoil. its criminal.
and who says that once assad falls, it will be crystal clear who will reign over syria? who said the war there will end and not become nastier and really sectarian?
15:25 ,2012 كانون الأول 05
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"the attitude of m14 is purely political." of course it s a political party... just like M8!
"they want to be back in power at all cost" that is the goal of all political parties to be in power, it s the definition of it!
didn t M8 seize power under very criticizable means not waiting for the elections??
"it will be crystal clear who will reign over syria? " every time a system falls and is replaced by another you have a period of transition where chaos often takes place! but baath party is part of history now...totalitarian regimes shall be fought... and if another totalitarian regime takes power in syria and wants to rule lebanon like assad did, then you will fight it again!
aren t you fed up that the baath regime controls lebanon? i am...
17:14 ,2012 كانون الأول 05
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still so stupid it seems... comparing tripoli and a whole country.. yes hezb has the decision of peace and war taking the whole country down with them!!! are you so blind or stupid? i guess stupidly blinded by orangina!
i didn t see a foreign country attack lebanon due to the unrest in tripoli.. i didn t see beirut shelled by a foreign country due to the unrest in tripoli! but hezb brought that to lebanon....
so compare what is comparable then you ll be credible...
17:13 ,2012 كانون الأول 05
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Why are the MP's protesting about going to work? Aren't they paid by our tax money to negotiate and make the country run better?
Let them shut up and go to work and make things work in the country.
17:35 ,2012 كانون الأول 05
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if i sum up M8 arguments :
- 2006 war was not due to hezbis but only to israel.
- may 2008 was due to the fact that the gvt wanted to pass an illegal law against hezbollah.
- M8 democratically seized power not waiting for the 2013 elections( what the heck elections are made for?!)
- M8 blocked the parliamnt for good democratic reasons but M14 is not good reasons according to M8.
-M8 blocked the previous cabinet by resigning and forbidding the replacement of them it was totally normal but M14 blocking parliament is totalitarism
- Aoun s changes of position concerning syria and hezbollah is pragmatism but some M14 leaders change of positions are stupidity not pragmatism.
- M8 backed the lybian revolution and the bahreini one but in syria it s different, syrians cannot do what they did in the other countries!
but they are absolutely not hypocrits and double standard people....they are smart and pragmatic...
