عون يحذر من "العبث بالثوابت": نتعامل مع حكومة أمر واقع أنها مناقضة للميثاق

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جدد رئيس تكتل "التغيير والإصلاح" النائب ميشال عون الثلاثاء القول أن أي حكومة أمر واقع هي "مناقضة للميثاق" وستم التعامل معها على هذا الأساس، محذرا بالمس بـ"الثوابت والمسلمات".

وقال عون بعد اجتماع التكتل عصر الثلاثاء وفي ضوء ارتفاع أسهم حكومة أمر واقع سياسية " الخطر في مشروع تأليف الحكومة أنه يأتي نتيجة استشارات ناقصة حذفت منها أول قوة برلمانية مسيحية".

وشرح عون أنه لما اعترضنا على هذا الخطأ المتعمد تبين لنا أنه بكل بساطة كان بناء على اتفاق بين مسؤولين والرئيس المكلف واكتشفنا بأن ما كتب قد كتب وما علينا إلا القبول ووداعا أيتها الشراكة الوطنية".

وإذ ذكّر بوجوب "أن تتمثل الطوائف بصورة عادلة في تشكيلة الحكومة" قال ان "مبادئ الدستور تنص صراحة أن لا شرعية لأي سلطة تناقض العيش المشترك" .

كما رأى أن "ممارسات" الرئيس تمام سلام "لا تمت بصلة إلى المبادئ والنصوص ولا إلى أعراف تأليف الحكومات إنما تتوجب أن تكون مرفوضة تماما كب لا تعتبر سابقة كما أنها شروط مصطنعة تهدف إلى التعطيل".

وأضاف ان "المداورة ليس بمبدأ أو مسلك أو عرف ما يطرح سؤالا لماذا تقييد التأليف بالشرط المختلق؟" متابعا "التوصيف الوحيد هو شرط سياسي لجميع أهداف التعقيد وهو شرط زاده تعقيدا تمسك الرئيس المكلف به بعد كلام رئيسه في كتلة المستقبل".

وإذ لفت إلى أن "الحكومة الجامعة تفترض ان يوافق جميع الأفرقاء على أي من شروط تأليفها" أردف عون "من يصنع العراقيل هو من يخرج عن الميثاق وما ينزع عن الحكومات كل شرعية ودستورية فتضحي حكومة أمر واقع بكل المضامين ما يحتم التعامل معها على هذا الأساس لا سيما إذا رفضتها كتلة تمثل".

وقال أن "المداورة لأشهر قليلة مداورة رضائية" سائلا "ألا تعتبر مناقضة لعمل الوزراء المنتج من أجل استمرار الخطط والتعهدات؟".

وتابع عون "إذا كان الهدف المضمر من تأليف الحكومة هو شطر الإستحقاق الرئاسي فالأمر أخطر وعواقبه وخيمة ذلك لأن الإستحقاق يحقق ميثاقية الدولة ومن الواجب الميثاقي والدستوري أن يكون مجلس الوزراء ممثلا صحيحا لجميع مكونات الوطن ذلك أن رئيس الجمهورية هو رمز الوحدة".

وختم رئيس التيار "الوطني الحر" بالقول "حذاري العبث بالثوابت والمسلمات في مثل هذه المفاصل الخطيرة حذاري حذاري".

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  • 17:13 ,2014 شباط 04

    عون: حذاري العبث بالثوابت والمسلمات في مثل هذه المفاصل الخطيرة حذاري حذاري

  • 17:12 ,2014 شباط 04

    عون: إذا كان الهدف المضمر من تأليف الحكومة هو شطر الإستحقاق الرئاسي فالأمر أخطر وعواقبه وخيمة ذلك لأن الإستحقاق يحقق ميثاقية الدولة ومن الواجب الميثاقي والدستوري أن يكون مجلس الوزراء ممثلا صحيحا لجميع مكونات الوطن ذلك أن رئيس الجمهورية هو رمز الوحدة

  • 17:12 ,2014 شباط 04

    عون: المداورة لأشهر قليلة مداورة رضائية وألا تعتبر مناقضة لعمل الوزراء المنتج من أجل استمرار الخطط والتعهدات؟

  • 17:10 ,2014 شباط 04

    عون: الحكومة السياسية نقيضها الإستهداف السياسي لأي من مكوناتها والحكومة الإنتقالية يفترض أن تعتبر مستقيلة عند انتهاء مهلة رئاسة الجمهورية

  • 17:10 ,2014 شباط 04

    عون: يتضح أن من يصنع العراقيل هو من يخرج عن الميثاق وما ينزع عن الحكومات كل شرعية ودستورية فتضحي حكومة أمر واقع بكل المضامين ما يحتم التعامل معها على هذا الأساس لا سيما إذا رفضتها كتلة تمثل

  • 17:08 ,2014 شباط 04

    عون: إن الإستشارات لا تعني فقط استشارات يقوم بها الرئيس المكلف بل هي عملية متواصلة بهدف إنضاج تشكيلة حكومية ذلك أن إنشاء السلطة الدستورية منصوص عنها

  • 17:08 ,2014 شباط 04

    عون: إن الحكومة الجامعة تفترض ان يوافق جميع الأفرقاء على أي من شروط تأليفها غير المنصوص عنها في الدستور أو المتأتية عن عرف حيث تنتفي آنذاك وعندما يصبح الأمر مفروضا فرضا بقوة الميثاق والعرف

  • 17:07 ,2014 شباط 04

    عون: المداورة ليس بمبدأ أو مسلك أو عرف ما يطرح سؤالا لماذا تقييد التأليف بالشرط المختلق؟ التوصيف الوحيد هو شرط سياسي لجميع أهداف التعقيد وهو شرط زاده تعقيدا تمسك الرئيس المكلف به بعد كلام رئيسه في كتلة المستقبل

  • 17:06 ,2014 شباط 04

    عون: الممارسات لا تمت بصلة إلى المبادئ والنصوص ولا إلى أعراف تأليف الحكومات إنما تتوجب أن تكون مرفوضة تماما كب لا تعتبر سابقة كما أنها شروط مصطنعة تهدف إلى التعطيل

  • 17:06 ,2014 شباط 04

    عون: إن خاتمة مبادئ الدستور تنص صراحة أن لا شرعية لأي سلطة تناقض العيش المشترك

  • 17:05 ,2014 شباط 04

    عون: إن تأليف أي حكومة يفترض مراعاة الميثاق في الشكل والمضمون أي تسمية رئيس الحكومة هي استنادا إلى استشارات نيابية ملزمة يطلعه رئيس الجمهورية عليها وصدور مرسوم التأليف عن رئيس الجمهورية

  • 17:05 ,2014 شباط 04

    عون: في المضمون يجب أن تتمثل الطوائف بصورة عادلة في تشكيلة الحكومة لا سيما أن المادة 66 من الدستور أعطت حيثية دستورية مستقلة للوزير الذي لم يعد من أعوان رئيس الجمهورية كما عام 1990

  • 17:03 ,2014 شباط 04

    رئيس تكتل "التغيير والإصلاح" النائب ميشال عون بعد اجتماع التكتل: الخطر في مشروع تأليف الحكومة أنه يأتي نتيجة استشارات ناقصة حذفت منها أول قوة برلمانية مسيحية ولما اعترضنا على هذا الخطأ المتعمد تبين لنا أنه بكل بساطة كان بناء على اتفاق بين مسؤولين والرئيس المكلف واكتشفنا بأن ما كتب قد كتب وما علينا إلا القبول ووداعا أيتها الشراكة الوطنية

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التعليقات 82
Missing imagine_1979 17:06 ,2014 شباط 04

What is he going to say this time...
Hoping for some comon sense...
But i think a lot of chupachups will be needed...

Missing samy2 17:13 ,2014 شباط 04

don't hold your breath. common sense?????

Thumb MaddyBaddy 00:07 ,2014 شباط 05

He's an idiot & psychopath- confirmed! Again- worst person (& clan) Lebanon has allowed back in. Biggest mistake post-1991 was welcoming this douche bag to ruin everything... it's like that nasty old grandpa that doesn't wanna get with the program and move on

Thumb ice-man 17:42 ,2014 شباط 04

How is job hunting going for you? Any luck?

Thumb geha 18:18 ,2014 شباط 04

definition of aoun:

- Syrian agent
- Syrian terrorist
- tried and still trying to destroy the Lebanese state
- obstructionist
- false Christian
....

Thumb geha 18:22 ,2014 شباط 04

has anyone noticed that the roar is everywhere these days?
btw, have you noticed that his comments are ridiculous an funny?

please keep it up :) we need something funny these days :)

Thumb liberty 18:38 ,2014 شباط 04

Seriously roar, you need to find a life away from internet. Can you count how many posts you already posted. All of them are useless, no argument, no taste and you think you are funny just coz you type lol or lmfao? You have no shame! You are actually hated round here.

Thumb geha 18:39 ,2014 شباط 04

still silly comments that make n sense :)

and for your information: I have been constantly against the Syrian occupation, as well as the Israeli invasion (and I was fighting in Beirut in 82 unlike you for sure), and now against the Iranian invasion of my country.

unlike you, I am for a free Lebanon :) so anyway: keep make us laugh with your ignorant funny comments :)

Missing imagine_1979 20:02 ,2014 شباط 04

Seems that roar forgot aoun and syria accountability act, when he was treated as a traitor by his current alies, when he was defended by the same guys that roar is now critisising (kornet chahwenn do u remember?)
Seems roar forgot what jamil el sayed stance was, seems roar forgot 7august (7 ebb) when rayar, kateeb, lf, ahrar, democratic left... Students were beaten by his new friends..
I remember gen lteif was there, got caught, put in jail with a lot of comrads then haven't seen him for a while now, any idea?...
Seem tgat he has forgot all this and so much more... So maybe he will remember, or maybe he will just follow aoun no matter his political stands, but in that case how would roar be better than the ones he treats of being sheeps....
Anyway roar, donnot forget man, take it easy.... and chupachups man, chupachups...

Missing imagine_1979 20:07 ,2014 شباط 04

I will see u in latikia legit after it will be freed from assad chabiha...
As for saudi/ksa/zinist/takfiri... Well i still prefer sunnis like saad el hariri, martyr chateh..than hachem minkara, chaker el absi and co..u know friends of assad...
Anyway it will take time, french revilution started in 1789 and tooked decade to have a real state, so yes i will go have a drink in ur honor in free liberated latkiyeh for sure...
Till then man have some chupachups, serously, it will do u good...

Thumb ToniFarris 01:01 ,2014 شباط 05

Why doesn't he run with ASSad in Syria next June, they both make a perfect couples.

Missing samy2 17:14 ,2014 شباط 04

hahah

Thumb montreal 17:27 ,2014 شباط 04

"Aoun: Sects must be represented in a fair manner in the cabinet lineup"

but if the biggest block repressing a particular sect decides not to participate the sect will be represented anyways, at least according to this guy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmZn5BLfPHk

What's good for the goose..

Thumb _mowaten_ 19:08 ,2014 شباط 05

totally different situation, he was referring to mustaqbal who refused to participate after saadoun hariri the IInd lost his throne.
they were offered multiple times to take part in miqati's cabinet but they refused and decided to boycott.

Thumb FlameCatcher 17:29 ,2014 شباط 04

AOUN : The current practices have nothing to do with the principles and texts .... They must be totally rejected so that they don't become a precedent. They are also artificial preconditions aimed at obstruction.

Ya CLAOUN ! Tell us about the precendence that Hezbollah creates ? Does this mean we can build our own Christian and Sunni Resistance movements in Lebanon ?

Isn't Hezbollah's entire existence an unconstitutional artifice aimed at obstructing the Lebanese states' sovereignty and security and balance of other sects?

Thumb lebpatriot246 17:33 ,2014 شباط 04

What are you smoking today Flame?

Thumb FlameCatcher 17:37 ,2014 شباط 04

Whatever Hezbollah is supplying me with these days ... man, the war has made their drug operations sooooo easy for them ! Wanna share ?

I'm using Aoun's own arguments to demonstrate Hezbollah is an unconstitutional organisation... care to comment on that rather than post irrelevant comments ?

Thumb FlameCatcher 17:49 ,2014 شباط 04

IranPatriot :
1- HA is an "Islamic Resistance"
2- HA thrived on terrorist suicide bombers, same as yesterday's miserable attack !
3- HA was created by IRAN, not LEBANESE !
4- HA advocates the creation of an islamic state in Lebanon according to Hassan Nasrallah himself
5- HA is a single sect para-military organisation and therefore unconstitutional and illegal on paper ! No law exists to legitimize HA and their weapons !

It seems you know nothing about the story... just Aoun and HAssan's fairytales...

Thumb FlameCatcher 18:08 ,2014 شباط 04

This article is about Aoun's arguments on our constitution. I'm using his arguments to show how Hezbollah is constitutionally illegitimate. No double standards !

Thumb FlameCatcher 18:22 ,2014 شباط 04

Hariri created HA ? how is that ?

For your information :

1- Iran created HA
2- Hariri was forced to follow Syria's wishes
3- Hariri was killed when he decided to stop following Syria's wishes (Lahoud extension & turning his back to HA)

Show me how Hariri, whom you accuse of being an Israeli and Saudi agent, created HA ?

I cannot keep up with your contradicting arguments...

Missing imagine_1979 20:22 ,2014 شباط 04

Yes man hariri and hezbos where best friends, bravo man.. Even if this was true hariri decided to turn his back to syria, refused lahoud extenssion, supporting inderectly resolution 1559 trhow lik2 bristol wich later evolved to 14 march..
While aoun (the father and grandfather of 1559) the same guy who said in front of US politician that hezbollah is a syrian tool wich should be restrained imediately is now hezbos and assad best friend..
So what's ur point??
Chupachups man, really chupachups...

Missing imagine_1979 20:22 ,2014 شباط 04

By the way thank u flamecatcher for ur comments and ur logic, keep it up bro..

Thumb FlameCatcher 20:25 ,2014 شباط 04

@Iranpatriot : Hezbollah are more than welcome as part of the "social fabric". There weapons are not ! I don't need to make up anything. Any one of my points is provable while you, a drug affictionado it seems, have nothing to back your lies.

@FT : Hariri created HA ? Please demonstrate this ... you live in an illusion ! Why would a "Saudi/Israeli Agent" as you call him create Hezbollah as you claim ?

You and IranianPatriot must have the same dealer.

Thumb jabal10452 17:30 ,2014 شباط 04

Man... You are offered the Foreign and the Education Portfolios. Those protfolios are much, much more essential for the country than Telecom! Take the offer and let's get on with it! Bring back som trustworthiness to Lebanon after Mansour's management of our foreign affairs. Tackle our education portfolio so that we have a chance to compete on the global stage, and raise our standards of living. Education is so important!
I honestly don't understand why the FPM won't take the deal. Please, someone enlighten me: Why this obsession with Telecom?

Thumb ice-man 17:40 ,2014 شباط 04

still hearing those voices in your head?

Thumb jabal10452 19:51 ,2014 شباط 04

FT: why should we care about things like who gets credit for what at a time when a cabinet is needed to facilitate the presidential elections? The FPM should show that they are above those petty maneuvers and take the Foreign and Education portfolios. I think they can do good job on both.

One thing I agree with the FPM on: This rotation-of-portfolios idea is plain stupid. No party should agree to a principal that is guaranteed to put ministries in permanent disarray, due to a lack of continuity in their management.

Thumb jabal10452 19:51 ,2014 شباط 04

*principle, not principal

Missing imagine_1979 20:23 ,2014 شباط 04

Not bc there is no big oil companies deal in foreign and education ministery?...
I thought bassilo wanted some new armani suit...
Any roar, as usual, take it easy man and go hv some chupachups...

Missing imagine_1979 20:31 ,2014 شباط 04

Ok let's recapitulate, we know since the 60 that there is oil in front of our shore, we have conducted studies in the 2000 but the oil prices were too low to make extraction profitable (that was why israel and cyprus waitted till recently)so if i get it bassil and FPM great work was to make oils prices go high enought so that extracting oil from under the sea was profitable?.. Bravo bassilo and bravo FPM (sorry forgot that he rented fatmeh gull...)
As for telecome, really??? Man really?? We have one of the more expenssive telecome network in the world!! And as for quality... Let the guys juge... Telecom man, really????
Yalla chupachups for all... FPM rules...

Thumb jabal10452 22:28 ,2014 شباط 04

...Meanwhile, the Tamar field, which began flowing this year, already supplies 45% of Israel's electricity (source, The Economist, jan 25 2014). And here we are bickering over portfolios and principles and who get credit for what. Allah yse3edna.

Thumb ice-man 10:06 ,2014 شباط 05

@Jaafar: I am appalled by your language and complete disregard you constantly show towards your fellow posters! Why must you resort to insults? Why?

Thumb FlameCatcher 17:31 ,2014 شباط 04

AOUN : The constitution clearly stipulates that there is no legitimacy for any authority that contradicts coexistence.

Hezbollah is an "authority" (you branding them as "lebanese" resistance) that contradicts coexistence. Being exclusively shiite... does this mean they are unconstitutional ?

Thumb gma-bs-artist. 17:38 ,2014 شباط 04

The epitome of hyperbole

Thumb ice-man 17:39 ,2014 شباط 04

talking to yourself again?

Thumb ice-man 17:40 ,2014 شباط 04

Please, leb_roar tell us about the lawyer with the umbrella.

Thumb FlameCatcher 17:44 ,2014 شباط 04

Aoun : "Whoever creates obstacles..."

Hmm ... you mean Hezbollah ? Obstacle to a sovereign lebanon ? Postponing parliamentary elections because "sorry, we're at war" ? Bringing war and insecurity to Lebanon ? Assassinating political opponents ?

Aoun, you are the main obstacle set forth by Kezbollah to hamper the lebanese democratic process...

Thumb FlameCatcher 18:05 ,2014 شباط 04

I am christian and agree that it's irrelevant what religion our president belongs to. As long as he does not bring religion to politics.

However, I strongly disagree that Aoun is the right person for the job. He lacks all presidential traits : he's a self-loving dictator wannabe who puts his ego ahead of his country's interests !

Missing people-power 18:11 ,2014 شباط 04

Aoun represents 27 out of 64 Christian MP's in Parliament.... 42%

March 14 alliance represents 35 out of 64 Christian MP's..... 55%

Why should Aoun have any representatives in the Cabinet?

March 14 represents the majority of Christians in Parliament, and therefore March 14 should represent the Christians in the Cabinet, not FPM.

Thumb FlameCatcher 18:24 ,2014 شباط 04

It sucks that your only counter-argument is LMFAO ... when you do have something to say, it's Israeli this and Takfiri that ... it sucks to be M8. Emptiness rules your world...

Thumb liberty 18:42 ,2014 شباط 04

@canada, don't waste your time with this creature. He only knows how to insult and types lol. He thinks he is witty and funny. He has no argument just like the rest of them. Obviously he has no life.

Thumb FlameCatcher 20:37 ,2014 شباط 04

It's not about Aoun or a number of other parties.

M8 / M14 division is about being Pro or Anti Hezbollah Weapons / Syrian Government Influence / Iran Manipulation. That's all !

Most Christian MP are against this front ! So don't struggle to turn the numbers in your advantage because it's completely irrelevant.

Thumb FlameCatcher 20:40 ,2014 شباط 04

And Aoun's MPs are also part of a coalition of various political parties. He does not "control" all the christian MPs.

Missing people-power 22:43 ,2014 شباط 04

Fifi.... What about all the Shia MP's in Parliament who are controlled by Iran?

Are you saying they "don't count" either?

Thumb FlameCatcher 12:19 ,2014 شباط 05

FlameThrower is not here right now, he choked on his own lies...

Thumb mouallek 19:02 ,2014 شباط 04

Aoun : Monologue
Long est le temps et rude est la tâche
De concilier mon ego avec le patriarche
Et si j’y parviens, enfin, le patriarche aidant,
Je resterai toujours sur des charbons ardents.
La présidence ! Faut-il qu’elle m’échappe encore,
Que mes adversaires se liguent et se mettent d’accord
Pour me barrer la route et me faire la nique,
Refusant de subir un pouvoir hystérique.
Pardieu, il faut que je finisse par y parvenir,
Même s’il faut pour cela compromettre l’avenir,
Me vendre corps et âme aux suppôts de l’Iran
Et livrer le Liban à ses religieux tyrans.
Il faut bien que mon gendre, le virulent Bacille,
Ne puisse être traité d’idiot et d’imbécile
Et sauvegarder ses chances d’assurer à ma fille
L’opulence qu’elle désire pour elle et sa famille.

Thumb mouallek 21:05 ,2014 شباط 04

The losers are AOUN and his duped followers and the tragedy is that they dont know that they are losers.

Thumb amatoury114 19:13 ,2014 شباط 04

yea he is in 2020 in his son in law utopia world hahahaha
A NATION'S DREAM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ez-l7qh_teU

Thumb leSayyed 19:16 ,2014 شباط 04

The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

Missing peace 19:21 ,2014 شباط 04

poor aoun always interpreting the constitution for his own propaganda...

it only stipulâtes in the constitution that sects are represented, so if a christion NON FPM is designated then the sect is represented...

always finding excuses to block the gvt... poor thing.

Missing peace 19:23 ,2014 شباط 04

"The constitution clearly stipulates that there is no legitimacy for any authority that contradicts coexistence." he says....

so if there are christians and muslims in the cabinet NO coexistence is breached!
but you d like to do like hezbollah who issued a FATWA to forbid any chia to replace the resigned ministers under sinioura?

Thumb ice-man 19:36 ,2014 شباط 04

will you be posting this weekend? I forgive you for all the pain and suffering you have caused me.

Thumb ice-man 19:41 ,2014 شباط 04

why the insults @Jaafar? Why?

Default-user-icon soorihorr (ضيف) 19:52 ,2014 شباط 04

lack of roro good riddance. but you will be back as you will always remember where you can come to get another bone...

Default-user-icon soorihorr (ضيف) 19:53 ,2014 شباط 04

lack of boar how many more times will you threaten to leave but always come back for more bones? sounds like mental aoun, empty threats and more defeats..

Thumb gma-bs-artist. 20:07 ,2014 شباط 04

Foreign dude, you are confusing Sheikh Bachir with Bashar, no wonder you refuse to learn anything good, you actually support Bashar and Aoun.

As you should know roar claiming to support Sheikh Bachir will get one slandered by the ones who murdered him in M8 and the regime who ordered his murder and was thanked for it by a costumed fellow with a festive carnival on March 8 2005.

Missing imagine_1979 20:13 ,2014 شباط 04

Waw legit, u are secular, that's a good base we can build on...
Now can u explain why between all lebanese a secular person like u will chose aoun?..
To see if u deserve some chupachups...

Thumb Bandoul 20:34 ,2014 شباط 04

If you are sincere, then please lead by example. You are correct that the insults on both sides are despicable and should not be tolerated. I continue to read here but I choose to hardly ever post because it is not worth it. What you can do is take the moral high ground and never respond to insults and never offer it. Post your point of view in a clear and respectful manner and pretend the rest don't exists. That's what folks who aim to debate do.

Thumb Bandoul 20:39 ,2014 شباط 04

Naharnet cannot teach manners, not is it its responsibility to do so. Taking your ball and going home because others are uncivilized is not the answer. Stay, give your honest and proud opinion, do not insult, do not respond to insults and you can count me as one of your friends who completely disagrees with your point of view but is willing to debate you in civilized manner.

Thumb lebanesenationalist 20:55 ,2014 شباط 04

Hello everyone. Let me start by establishing that I do not belong to either political camp. I will always speak the truth, and say things the way they are. My loyalty is to Lebanon first, and Lebanon last.

Unfortunately, our country has reached a point in its history where one reaches a crossroads, and is forced to make a choice: you are either with HA, or you are against them. I have come to the conclusion that one cannot be a supporter of Hezbollah and also be a patriot. It is mutually exclusive. A patriot cannot sanction a security force that operates outside the state, and takes orders from a different country. This is the definition of a traitor, and I don't care how you spin it or make it seem like HA is necessary, or how you blame others, facts logic and reason are universal concepts.

Missing VINCENT 22:26 ,2014 شباط 04

Yep. The agenda(s) of the regional masters would most likely contradict with the needs of the people and the preservation of the Wattan. Most people need religion, but the love, respect and allegiance to the Wattan is and, should always be, above paramount above religion. I hope those Lebanese people who maintain this view take control of the government.

Thumb lebanesenationalist 23:52 ,2014 شباط 04

Josephani, I'm not sure I fully understand the point you're trying to make, but I'll answer what I think you meant:

I believe that the govt and army/police are certainly capable of defending every community in Lebanon. The argument that a certain religious minority needs to defend itself is a flawed one, merely an excuse in and of itself; the existence of this militia creates the conditions that weaken the state and confidence in it (and thus its ability to defend the aforementioned minority).

Any party that serves the interests of a foreign nation to the detriment of its own is a traitor, regardless of who we're referring to.

Thumb lebanesenationalist 01:46 ,2014 شباط 05

Meaningless.

Missing helicopter 04:20 ,2014 شباط 05

@ lebanesenationalist
I agree with what you said 100%
Thanks for taking the time to write a good post.

Default-user-icon J (ضيف) 21:08 ,2014 شباط 04

We need real educated people to hold portfolios regardless of religion or political affiliations.

Missing people-power 21:31 ,2014 شباط 04

I predicted last week that The_Bore would be changing his name soon.

He claims to be an important business man living in Australia, and yet the vast majority of his posts have been from 1:00 AM Sydney time until 6:00 AM Sydney time.

I wish we were getting rid of him, but I guarantee he will be back with another nickname. In fact, he probably already is posting under another one of his aliases.

Thumb beiruti 21:32 ,2014 شباط 04

2. Aoun has cited Article 66 which has nothing to do with the argument upon which he wishes to base this citation of authority. There is nothing in Article 66 which requires a consensus cabinet.
the proper citation is to: Article 64 [Responsibility and Powers of the PM] Which states:

Thumb beiruti 22:41 ,2014 شباط 04

FT, is rather simple, Aoun is citing alleged violations of the National Pact of 1943 as violations of the Lebanese Constitution. The National Pact is not the Constitution. The National Pact is itself a violation of the Constitution. It is an extra-judicial agreement meant to sidestep the constitution by introducing confessionalism into the system. No where in the constitution is there a reservation of any seat of government for the member of a particular confessional group, much less a party, as Aoun is claiming.

Thumb cedars2 22:59 ,2014 شباط 04

Ya habiby who told them to go assassinate Harriri and all the others??? O yeah it was Bashar. Nokta al satir. They have no leg to stand on.

Default-user-icon JCWilliams (ضيف) 00:48 ,2014 شباط 05

I will be your President . You will all be treated equally . I will ensure that the Oil and Gas reserves are exploited and money will flow into the state treasury and not into the pockets of thieves. Of course, soon I will have to be assassinated not by Sunnis or Christians or Shiites but by all Lebanese equally who clearly prefer poor governance, obstruction, duplicity, theft and treason from their leaders.

Thumb cedars2 06:38 ,2014 شباط 05

Pardon me ice I borrowed one of your "gems" relax you have the patent on this word.

Thumb ice-man 06:58 ,2014 شباط 05

No need to guess his location. You can ascertain his GPS location just by his screen name:)

Thumb ice-man 07:00 ,2014 شباط 05

@cedars the second: good looking and smart people like you have my express consent to use my gems. It would be nice though, to add a small caveat such as *courtesy of ice-man:))

Thumb cedars2 07:15 ,2014 شباط 05

Will do :)

Thumb Kalzyturks 07:35 ,2014 شباط 05

Karim–m1

Please don't make it sound like you are sectarian that's the last thing we want in Lebanon.

Or are you? Hhmmmm

Thumb Kalzyturks 08:11 ,2014 شباط 05

Naharnet is an unbiased source of news,
I don't see that your posts are deleted yet though!

If it is as you say then why are you still? Respectfully!

Thumb Kalzyturks 08:11 ,2014 شباط 05

Here*

Thumb Kalzyturks 10:00 ,2014 شباط 05

Connection to sectarian.... Yes it is a backward idea what ever sect you may be. I agree.

I said sectarianism is the last thing we need in Lebanon.

Can you not read my pic on the left.

Thumb cedars2 11:58 ,2014 شباط 05

No you get banned when youre not making sense except to yourself anymore, I suggest easy on the multiple personalities because its affecting you in a negative way, is it really worth assuming different personas just to fake votes and distort the truth?
Your non coherent rabid attacks are affecting only you!! I wish you well because I would hate to see you not post here because after all a man needs to laugh...

Missing greatpierro 12:31 ,2014 شباط 05

Aoun stubbornness remind us of the war he did against the fl back in the late 80's. Regardless if he is right or not his stubbornness has harmed the Christians and Lebanon enormously

Missing greatpierro 12:31 ,2014 شباط 05

Aoun stubbornness remind us of the war he did against the fl back in the late 80's. Regardless if he is right or not his stubbornness has harmed the Christians and Lebanon enormously

Missing people-power 12:46 ,2014 شباط 05

The_Bore has reappeared

Missing people-power 13:19 ,2014 شباط 05

Jaafar.... Anything that follows after you say "this means" is quite meaningless.

Obviously you do not understand the concept of democracy. Go look up the definition of democracy. Democracy is a form of government. What does that have to do with your idiotic comments?

What does democracy have to do with Naharnet deleting your offensive posts??? Show me one definition of democracy where a news website is required to post distasteful comments from someone like you.

A free society allows you to open your own website and post all the comments that you want. Or you can post your drivel on Tayyar or al Manar. Go see how long those web sites allow anti-M8 comments.

The fact that you keep coming back is a testament to your pitiful situation, being a paid propagandist, with no life.