Hariri Says Coalition May Ask for 'March 14 Cabinet' after Shatah's Murder

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Al-Mustaqbal movement leader Saad Hariri warned late Friday that the March 14 alliance could impose tougher conditions on the form of the new government after the assassination of former Finance Minister Mohammed Shatah.

In remarks to LBCI TV station, the former prime minister said: “We were asking for a neutral cabinet, but now we could call for … (the formation of) a government (made up) of March 14” figures.

Shatah, who was Hariri's adviser, was killed in a car bombing in downtown Beirut on Friday.

Premier-designate Tammam Salam has so far failed to form a new cabinet over conditions and counter-conditions set by the rival parties.

The March 14 alliance is sticking to its demand for a neutral cabinet, while the Hizbullah-led March 8 camp is calling for a national unity cabinet based on the 9-9-6 formula.

“We are not afraid of anyone,” Hariri said.

He said in a statement that the ones who are running away from international justice and refusing to appear before the international tribunal were behind Shatah's assassination.

Hariri said those responsible are "the same ones who are opening the doors of evil and chaos into Lebanon" and "brought regional fires to our country," in a clear reference to Hizbullah's armed intervention in support of Syrian President Bashar Assad.

But Hizbullah strongly denounced Shatah's assassination, saying it serves "the enemies of Lebanon."

Hariri made other remarks to Future TV, describing the former finance minister as a “moderate.”

He remained steadfast to continue in the path of the March 14 alliance, which was formed after the massive suicide bombing in 2005 in downtown Beirut — some four blocks from the site of the explosion — that killed Hariri's father, Rafik, also a former prime minister.

“We will not give up our principles,” the Mustaqbal movement leader told Future.

“They killed us and will continue to murder us. But we won't stop … because our faith in Lebanon is huge,” he said.

Hariri urged his supporters to be “patient and wise” to rebuild the Lebanon they dream of.

Comments 131
Thumb Mystic 28 December 2013, 08:09

Come back to Lebanon Hariri, stop talking about Lebanon miles away, come and show your supporters that you are with them, they are so frustrated and anxious without you Saad.

Thumb geha 28 December 2013, 08:15

you wish, you terrorist murderers!
you want him to come back to be able to kill him too?

Thumb ice-man 28 December 2013, 08:36

dearest @sagh: Do you like Agatha Christie?

Thumb mckinl 28 December 2013, 09:22

@ geha

“Foreign inmate Morshed Abdul Rahman, who is jailed at the central Roumieh prison over the case of the two cars, confirmed to interrogators that Moussa M. and Mohammed al-Sarii took the car to the Ain el-Hilweh camp and that they are members of Fatah al-Islam,” the sources added." ~ Naharnet

Doesn't sound like HA ... sounds like Salafists ...

Here's where you say the ISF are traitors geha ...

Thumb geha 28 December 2013, 09:42

convenient abou adas :)

Thumb geha 28 December 2013, 09:43

we know your usual games :)

Thumb geha 28 December 2013, 09:56

just to let you know:
the footage from high definition cameras show clearly the 2 guys who placed the bomb, and they are now known.
they have already been identified to be hizbushaitan operatives and their names and addresses are known.
should anyone doubt what I am saying: check with your contacts and they will confirm it to you.

Thumb mckinl 28 December 2013, 10:09

@ geha

So HA is stupid enough to plant bombs in broad daylight on busy streets instead of assembling the car bomb elsewhere?

Really geha you must make up better stories than that ... This fairy tale of yours is embarrassment to Naharnet readers ...

Thumb geha 28 December 2013, 10:16

either you are extremely stupid or you intend to appear as such!
the footage shows the following:
- a van was parked one day earlier in that spot to reserve the spot
- one hour and a half before the explosion, the van is removed and the car that exploded is parked in the reserved spot.
- when the car of Shatah passed, they detonated the bomb.
is it clear to you now?
the 2 guys are now known.

Thumb mckinl 28 December 2013, 10:28

@ geha

Got a link to the report ... or better yet undoctored footage?

Thumb Mystic 28 December 2013, 10:36

geha whether you like it or not. Hariri has to come back to Lebanon sooner or later, so we can have some diplomacy.

Thumb cedre 28 December 2013, 17:42

hariri should not come back until HA is disarmed and NasrIran gets out of his rathole...
If I was him i wouldn't come back at all, he's very brave to care about lebanon after what happened to his dad.
He should think first about himself and his kids.

Thumb mckinl 28 December 2013, 08:33

This pronouncement by Hariri of a M14 cabinet looks irresponsible if not desperate. There is much more going on here than politics as usual.

Thumb geha 28 December 2013, 10:11

yes. finally our leaders realized they do not need to be afraid anymore.
they now realize you can only kill us once.

Thumb Mystic 28 December 2013, 10:17

Says Mr. Hariri that far away from Lebanon "We are not afraid" Then let him come back to Lebanon and calm you kiddos down.

Thumb ice-man 28 December 2013, 08:41

You are mystical, magical, There's no way to describe what you do to me
You just do to me, what you do
And it feels like I've been rescued
I've been set free
I am hypnotized, by your destiny
You are magical, lyrical, beautiful
You are... Mystical Oh Oh Oh

Thumb mckinl 28 December 2013, 08:55

Any word on the names of the others killed in the car?

Thumb Mystic 28 December 2013, 09:26

@icecream, happy to be of service.

Thumb ice-man 28 December 2013, 09:32

@Mystical: No Problem... Left you the tip with @theresistance.

Thumb thepatriot 28 December 2013, 10:09

@Mystic "Yep, it's always great for M14, when things like this happens. Especially with elections coming up."

Man... you're my hero... it is not often that I am blown away by intelligence... I don't know you, but I can only imagine that you're a Nobel Prize Winner, a famous political analyst, or a Harvard graduate.
Thanx for your great analysis, your amazing input, and for granting us the honor of laying down your words on such a modest forum.

Thumb Mystic 28 December 2013, 10:55

I'm happy to have suprised you thepatriot.

Thumb Mystic 28 December 2013, 09:06

Mr. Hariri look at your supporters such as geha, they are so lost without you, they are ready to kill themselves. For your own supporters sake come to Lebanon.

Thumb Mystic 28 December 2013, 09:25

Yep, it's always great for M14, when things like this happens. Especially with elections coming up.

Thumb geha 28 December 2013, 09:51

sure we want our leaders to be blown up so we can benefit politically from that :)
m8 are displaying a high level of stupidity never reached before :)

Thumb Mystic 28 December 2013, 10:10

No geha, i still believe Israel had part in it, you guys just bath in all the mourning. Uses it for your own benefit

Thumb Mystic 28 December 2013, 10:13

You are hysterical as you are stupid IbnAlQaeda.

Thumb -phoenix1 28 December 2013, 11:56

Mystic, my good brother, me too, I'd wish for Hariri to return and lead, but in all honesty, do we really believe that this is practical? My brother, Saad's father has been brutally assassinated, Hariri's M14 coalition won TWO elections and won them convincingly, even Sayed Hassan admitted and conceded defeat on both occasions, only to see Saad robbed of his two cabinets. Saad even showed his good will well beyond any doubt when he accepted to form governments of national unity but Hezbollah and the M8 coalition it heads, have they not engaged a coup against him? At this stage I will not mention the numerous volte face that HA and its partners pro-acted and protracted on, but now with the 13th M14 victim, and whose blood is still hot, don't you think that we all know that Hariri's life is an even greater danger today than ever before?

Thumb -phoenix1 28 December 2013, 12:02

Brother Mystic, and if God forbids a million times, Saad came only to be killed, don't you think that this will immediately bring Lebanon to another brutal civil war whose consequences will strike fear in the hearts of everyone who knows what a civil war is like? I am a hardened Lebanese Forces fighter who saw war at a very young age, I saw it all, I still remain 100% LF, but I'll be honest with you, even people like me will shudder at the thought of another civil war in Lebanon. So brother, let us be reasonable with each other, I am one who will be happier for Hariri to remain out of Lebanon, for his safety and for ours all. Time has proven that the criminals can reach anyone and in real time too, even Sayed Hassan till now has to live deep underground, and always moving from shelter to shelter.

Thumb Mystic 28 December 2013, 14:20

Phoenix, these are dark times brother, this attack on Shatah is affecting not just M14 but M8 aswell, we need to have dialogue with all parties and members of both alliances.

Hezbollah would not gain anything from an attack like this, you of all people know this. So i hope you will open the eyes of the other people in here, tell them whats right. They don't seem to want to listen to me lol.

Thumb Mystic 28 December 2013, 14:21

And i believe we need Saad Hariri to bring M14 to the table, so we can all negotiate the future of Lebanon, as Lebanese.

Thumb -phoenix1 28 December 2013, 14:38

Mystic, thanks bro, may your words of wisdom, added to all those who want the best for Lebanon bring forth good fortune to this beloved Lebanon of ours, and may soon God bring us all out of this terrible mess, whereby we can all as one Lebanese family live side by side, as one people who will pursue one aim, one goal and one destiny. I have always believed the the people of Lebanon, wallahil 3azeem, we deserve the best, this is why I always keep saying this to people, "ne7na Lubnaniyin, bnistehel kelel 5eyr la2annoo, mna3ref in 3ish" Btilba2elnah al 7ayat. May this culture of hatred and suspicions stop, may we finally come to realize our dream of peace and prosperity for all.

Thumb geha 28 December 2013, 08:10

Hizbushaitan made their most major mistake in killing Shatah.
in the face of an extremist hizbushaitan, it appears only extremism can counter extremism.
they are driving the Lebanese towards their extremism? then let them handle the results from now on.

Thumb sunni 28 December 2013, 08:24

Geha: Are you the one running the investigation or is this just an assumption? You seem to be informed...what's your theory about HARIRI'S assasins? Do you know them too?

Thumb ice-man 28 December 2013, 08:33

Sorry but I could not help notice your screen name.... are you a sunni by birth?

Missing imagine_1979 28 December 2013, 09:15

Till now there is 5 inculpation by an international tribunal... It might give u a hint...
I really wish it were not hezbollah, that it was syrian intelligence (like kamal jumblat, renne moawad and even their owan like helping ghazi kenaan suicide for exemple...)but hezbollah actions made nothing to prove it wrong(besides going in leb tv and puting footage taken by a drone of beieut few monthes before the assassination...)
So, yes dsaddely we might hv a clue of who might hv done it... And not to forget even if hezb did it that doesnot take out the responssability of the descision of the murder away from the syrian regime..

Thumb bill_the_butcher 28 December 2013, 08:25

Please answer the question:

Why isn't it plausible that Chatah was assassinated by ISIS or AL -Qaida???

You always like to point out the fact that Hezz always blames Israel for everything. Meanwhile you do the exact same thing when it comes to assassinations in Lebanon.

Explain yourself

Thumb ice-man 28 December 2013, 08:33

What time does your shop open on weekends>?

Missing imagine_1979 28 December 2013, 09:17

Yes da3ech and nousra assassinated chateh to create a striffe, they chose a moderate one and blew him, typically their way to do things, like they did from 2004 with marwan hmedeh, hariri, kassir, hawi.....

Thumb thepatriot 28 December 2013, 10:16

Al Qaida... why not!? May I also suggest Abu Sayaf, the cia, and Freddy Kruger...

If you have skills in French, you should read this one...


Thumb mckinl 28 December 2013, 08:25

It did not take long for Hariri to try and cash in on the assassination of the "apostate" former Finance Minister Mohammed Shatah.

Missing imagine_1979 28 December 2013, 09:19

He should hv shut it up and let things go, after all it is only the 13th political fogure getting assassinated from 14 march...
Plus one for u mckinl and since early morning..bravo

Thumb mckinl 28 December 2013, 09:53

All the facts so far point to Sunni Salafists ... The car that had the bomb was stolen and taken to Ain el-Hilweh camp

Naharnet ~ "The sources said “Ahmed A., aka Abu al-Daoud, was driving the black car and confessed during interrogation that he stole the olive green CRV that targeted Shatah's convoy in collaboration with a man called Moussa M. and another called Mohammed S. and nicknamed Mohammed al-Sarii,”"

Missing imagine_1979 28 December 2013, 10:04

And by the way it looks like abou adass the return, or maybe another chaker el abssi style gift from syrian regime..
Plus one for mcknil again (man u r killing the scores today, bravo...)

Thumb mckinl 28 December 2013, 10:15

Sorry that the facts of the case disappoint you so far ... even when they are published by Naharnet ...

Missing imagine_1979 28 December 2013, 10:20

And abbou addas was published, chaker el absi, even hariri killing by patriot air missil was published that doesnot mean fabricated by syrian regime or affiliates.. But u keep ur plus one, u r so cute...

Thumb mckinl 28 December 2013, 10:36

@ imagine_1979

I am as interested as you in finding the truth of the matter ... So far from what has been published by reputable outlets such as Naharnet it looks as if Sunni Salafists were behind the bombing.

If and when new facts come to light that overturn these facts I will be happy to post about these as well. But until then this is what the public has ... Naharnet wouldn't publish what they didn't think legitimate, especially something like this ...

Thumb geha 28 December 2013, 08:29

I can count 5 m8 idiots jumping in with their stupid comments :)

my reply to all of m8 : we are not afraid.
you can kill us once only.
but if we have to die, it will be with our head held high.

Thumb mckinl 28 December 2013, 11:39

So Hezbollah is responsible when somebody else commits murder?

Thumb bill_the_butcher 28 December 2013, 08:33

thats the answer of someone who has just been shut down by logic.
Youve embarrassed yourself and your "political" party.

Thumb ice-man 28 December 2013, 08:38

@bill.... you're full of........ logic, of course!

Thumb geha 28 December 2013, 08:39

you live in the mud, but you will not drag us with you :)
try as much as you want with your stupid comments, however please note: you are not worth it :)
you are useless dumb idiots who are paid to come here and post your stupidities.
but go tell your masters: this time round it is different, and you will pay the price of this execution.

Thumb bill_the_butcher 28 December 2013, 08:37

You know we open at 9am.
But I couldnt get you the copy of the Cher cd you asked for. sorry

Thumb ice-man 28 December 2013, 08:47

That's ok bill. Do you like Fadl Shaker's song Yana Yana?

Missing coolmec 28 December 2013, 09:41

I thought that song was Sabah's
Am I wrong?

Thumb bill_the_butcher 28 December 2013, 08:41

You like to say alot and give the "Braveheart" speech but refuse to acknowledge or even attempt to answer any of our questions.

Thumb geha 28 December 2013, 08:47

because those are not questions worthy of being answered :)
those are comments that show how stupid you and your masters are :)

Thumb ice-man 28 December 2013, 08:47

"Our" questions.... you mean you and your other selves? Please, explain....

Thumb general_puppet 28 December 2013, 08:46

Wow, look at all the M8 livestock spreading their BS… thats it boys earn those rials :-)

Thumb bill_the_butcher 28 December 2013, 08:52

For a guy who spends 23hours a day on this website, youd think youd be able to form a proper argument by now. Sadly, no.
Your refusal to answer a single question only further expose your sheep like characteristics.
You'd make a good watermelon salesmen.

Thumb ice-man 28 December 2013, 08:55

dearest @bill.... did you know smoking is bad for your health. Do you do any paid sports besides posting on the internet?

Missing imagine_1979 28 December 2013, 09:22

Questions should at least have a minimum of logic, ghazi kenaan comited suicide with how many bullets?... That's the mental level of ur question... I wonder from what political background u r coming from....

Thumb Chupachups 28 December 2013, 08:55

Lol @ Bill

Default-user-icon yahia (Guest) 28 December 2013, 08:58

hol mish 7zeb Allah
hol 7zeb ma bya3ref Allah

Thumb bill_the_butcher 28 December 2013, 08:58

I know your obliged to stand up for your girlfriend geha, but you should give her a chance to speak for herself.

Thumb ice-man 28 December 2013, 09:05

Sorry bill, I am busy right now.... but would be happy to ignore you some other time.

Thumb Chupachups 28 December 2013, 09:25


You shouldn't leave your butchery unattended.

Missing imagine_1979 28 December 2013, 09:34

And u r very smart so fine all that do not think like u are takfirist butchers (remembers me of an other political idol that deal with his people like this).. So now u are happy even non muslims and secular members of 14march are tackfiry butcherer fine, so now build a country, really verry productfull way of thinking.. Keep it on man, plus one for you to, bravo....

Thumb Chupachups 28 December 2013, 09:29

M8 here have a chupachup :)

Missing coolmec 28 December 2013, 09:45

To all of you guys
Your comments are so entertaining.... it is fun to read them and laugh
keep it up guys

Missing imagine_1979 28 December 2013, 10:01

Thank you bro, glad we count make someone happy despite all the killings and assassinations...
Plus one for u to bro

Thumb Chupachups 28 December 2013, 10:02

chupachups for everyone :)

Missing coolmec 28 December 2013, 10:12

Welcome bro! let me add, however, that my comment was not meant to divert attention from the horrible bombings that the country has witnessed. I share the grief and offer my sincere condolences to the victims families. I also wish to express my sadness and concern for our beautiful country and its people.

Missing imagine_1979 28 December 2013, 10:15

No offense taken there, keep it on

Missing coolmec 28 December 2013, 10:23

Thank you Bro and Happy New Year!!!!

Missing coolmec 28 December 2013, 10:13

needless to say that my comment had a sarcastic tone... so...

Missing imagine_1979 28 December 2013, 10:23

Bro ur comments are fine and in fact i think that a lot of those guys really need some chupachups...

Missing coolmec 28 December 2013, 10:44

Pardon my ignorance but what is chupachups??

Thumb ice-man 28 December 2013, 10:56

It is a cocktail only served to the resistance.

Missing coolmec 28 December 2013, 10:58

cocktail? any alcohol in it?

Thumb ice-man 28 December 2013, 11:03

it is 100% halal vodka.

Missing coolmec 28 December 2013, 11:20

Halal vodka!! hum interesting. I would like to try it
thanks for the explanation

Thumb Senescence 28 December 2013, 13:30

coolmec, sigh; It's a metonymy for a lollipop.

Thumb saturn 28 December 2013, 11:15

Dear Ex-PM Hariri, that was quick. Maybe you whacked Shatah to play victim and ask for your "March 14 cabinet"?

Missing peace 28 December 2013, 11:31

sure, like all those M14 people or antisyrians that were all killed by... M14 according to idiot M8ers....

Thumb FlameCatcher 28 December 2013, 14:27

Hariri isn't so smart as to play Hezbollah and Syria's twisted games :

- Hezbollah "wacked" Moughniyeh and their "brave men" involved in Hariri's killing so that no one questions them

- Bashar "wacked" Ghazi Kanaan who "commited suicide" with 2 bullets to his head.

Thumb thepatriot 29 December 2013, 11:04

I see we have another Nobel Price winner in the house... Hi Saturn!

Thumb Lebanon4life 28 December 2013, 11:28

Time for rearming !! The time of threats is over !!

Thumb habib 28 December 2013, 11:29

Ya shayekh saad rja3 3alebnan wjib ma3ak bawekher sila7 ma3ad yenfa3 ma3on hawdi lmejermin ella sila7 bi wej sila7

Missing coolmec 28 December 2013, 11:41

@Botros and habib
Return to the civil war?? No thanks

Thumb ice-man 28 December 2013, 11:48

Mowaten, southern, mystic, and specially flamethrower might take offense to your screen name.

Thumb ice-man 28 December 2013, 14:41

Oh.... that explains your great affinity and "love" for Nasrallah, Aoun, and Assad.

Thumb Mystic 28 December 2013, 14:58

Hhhhh cute. Can i pat him too FT? :)

Thumb Mystic 29 December 2013, 09:49

I think i will pass then.

Default-user-icon tyu (Guest) 28 December 2013, 12:48

Sweet dreams, baby. la t3allamo wala bi 3omron ra7 yet3allamo. jwemis wmeshyin.

Missing imagine_1979 28 December 2013, 13:51

Wow u got all that by urself?.. Plus one for u to lebpatriot (very patriotic indeed) keep it up

Thumb FlameCatcher 28 December 2013, 14:14

You believe your M8 failure of a cabinet achieved anything better ?

You failed to organise parliamentary elections. You failed to solve electricity problems. You failed to provide security in the country with more bombs going off in a year than any other period. You failed to handle the humanitarian crisis.

M14 never ruled and they should be given a chance for lack of better options. A neutral cabinet or a "consensus" cabinet is not an option.

Hezbollah has lost once again all legitimacy and you are the rising star of Ridicule !

Thumb FlameCatcher 28 December 2013, 14:33

Don't blame your incompetence on others... It's your government and your failed politicians and ridiculous projects that are worth no more than crap !

Thumb FlameCatcher 28 December 2013, 14:57

My opinion may be worth crap. You have yet to prove your politicians are worth anything more than that.

Thumb FlameCatcher 28 December 2013, 14:57

My opinion may be worth crap. You have yet to prove your politicians are worth anything more than that.

Thumb FlameCatcher 28 December 2013, 14:58

PS: where is Aoun condemning the attack by the way ? What excuses is he concocting for his sheep ?

Thumb Mystic 28 December 2013, 15:00

Lol poor fartie, he lost all his originality when he had to copy your name FT.

Thumb FlameCatcher 28 December 2013, 16:42

@Mystic : you lost all arguments ... anything else to say ? Some people steal names, some people steal freedoms, some people are trying to steal Lebanon for themselves ...

Thumb Chupachups 28 December 2013, 14:17

I believe you should suck on a chupachup


Missing imagine_1979 28 December 2013, 14:34


Default-user-icon ZakBlat (Guest) 28 December 2013, 14:25

I love how M14 always claim to be the "majority" in the country. The truth is in the last elections M8 received 54.5% of the popular vote while M14 only garnered 45.5%. BTW the 45.5% also included the Jumblutt vote which they are more then likely to lose. So, who's the real majority?

Missing imagine_1979 28 December 2013, 14:36

In deed they are a minority we only won elections twice despit 13 assassinations , assassination tentatives, 7ayyar...
U to plus one, u r really great today...

Thumb ice-man 28 December 2013, 14:43

@ZakBlat(Guest): I love how your statistics are the same as those of mowaten. Say hello for me:)

Thumb proudm14 28 December 2013, 17:30

i guess the schools in dahye are not so good, but there has never been a "popular vote" for parliamentary elections in lebanon. it's a majoritarian system meaning that safe districts generally see less participation because people know they will already win. thus your numbers mean absolute crap. get an education.

Missing imagine_1979 28 December 2013, 14:33

Indeed... Plus one again, u r burning all the scores.. Bravo

Thumb -phoenix1 28 December 2013, 14:43

Zakblat, I believe that your figures are disputable any way one may turn them around. But today it all fades away when we look what is facing us as Lebanese. here we have on the one hand a beautiful country that could be the best in the whole wide world, and on the other, an evil hand that wants to keep us divided, disputatious and at each others throats. Who will gain from all this if I may ask? Aren't there enough countries that would be the happiest to see us go down the drain? remember, it was said, "leave the sleeping giant to his slumber", as long as Lebanon does not wake up, so long as those who wish us harm prosper.

Thumb proudm14 28 December 2013, 14:50

kbeer ya sheikh saad!

form the government dominated by march 14!

Hariri for PM, Geagea for Pres. and someone from As3ad family for Speaker.

put more and more pressure on HA!!!! This is the desire of the M14 constituency! no compromises with the terrorists!

Thumb saturn 28 December 2013, 15:40

Holy sh*t, that'd be a dream come true. Plug a bomb for one more of the "moderates" and the dream is yours.

Thumb -phoenix1 28 December 2013, 14:58

(1). @lebpatriot123, you know how I always hold you in high esteem, but today with this post of yours, I must tell you in all honesty how much I disagree with you, at least I am one who feels that with this, you've overreached yourself. This position of yours is absolutely beyond measure and for many reasons. Saad Hariri and this despite all the reversals he has had to endure in the past years surely has not and did not do this. Yours reminds me of those dark days when Geagea was being accused of all crimes committed, I also remember that preposterous opinion that said that Amin Gemayel was the one who killed his own son Pierre (Allah yer7amoh). Just imagine someone who is decimating his own ranks for the sake of regaining popularity.

Thumb -phoenix1 28 December 2013, 14:59

(2). Leb123. In fact I am emboldened to go further in my counter argument to yours, that today, because of many of HA's and M8's intransigence, Saad Hariri is gaining a lot more popularity than before, he is now wished by almost every reasonable person to return and lead again. Your very position, as reflected in several of your posts just go to show how much you refuse it when people blindly accuse Hezbollah so unfairly, thus being the case, why do you make such a sharp U-turn and contradict your principles by making such statements? With all my respects to you sweet heart.

Default-user-icon ZakBlat (Guest) 28 December 2013, 15:12

@Ice-Man - With 52 per cent of about 3 million registered voters actually voting, the opposition led by Hizbollah’s coalition received 55 per cent of the vote (840,000)http://julienmercille.blogspot.ca/2009/06/hezbollah-bloc-won-popular-vote-in.html

At the level of popular representation, the election results showed that the alliance between Aoun and the Shiite forces finished ahead of the Hariri-Jumblatt alliance by almost 150,000 votes. http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2013/05/lebanon-political-system-update-crisis.html

Vote Totals - http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_T5tL_ecnLOA/Si8C7IwxlJI/AAAAAAAAA8w/AWB-Cslhf2A/s1600-h/p04_20090610_pic2.jpg

Lebanon ’s June 2009 legislative elections brought the March 14 coalition to power, thanks only to Lebanon ’s sectarian distribution of seats. They unambiguously lost the popular vote, however, which March 8 handily won.

I can go on...

Thumb proudm14 28 December 2013, 17:33

1. as stated before, in a majoritarian system, people are less likely to participate in a district if they perceive that the party they support will easily win. this means that any study about the "popular" choice of lebanese citizens cannot be made based on these statistics.

2. i find it funny that you think we care if you have 4 or 5% on us. you will not turn lebanon into another iran and we will shake hands with the devil himself to make sure of that.

3. i would like to see Aoun's poll numbers today compared to 2009. i have a gut feeling those numbers would make you go very pale.

Default-user-icon Khan (Guest) 28 December 2013, 15:46

Still using the expression 'May'... Pls form the m14 gov NOW and let all ministers, the PM, and the president be assassinated... Show some courage like the 1943 independence leaders...

Thumb beiruti 28 December 2013, 17:04

If saad cannot return to Lebanon for security reasons, it is his right. The same as Nasrallah living in hiding in order to preserve his personal security. Ironic, is it not that the most powerful Shia and the most powerful Sunni politician in Lebanon are both in hiding out of legitimate fear of assassination.

Thumb beiruti 28 December 2013, 17:10

Saad should turn leadership of future over to a political figure in country! and turn the check book over too, so as to deactivate Future.
The best revenge for the assassination of Chatah is to continue forward with the effort to form a neutral council of Ministers. This is best for the country leading up to Presidential elections and up to the re-election of Parliament at the end of its extended Mandate. Hezbollah may not be happy about that, there may be more car bombs, but the resistance must be resisted and there is a price to be paid to win independence. The Lebanese must be willing to pay the ransom for their country. Nothing is free, especially freedom.

Thumb beiruti 28 December 2013, 17:11

That is to "re activate" Future, not "deactivate"

Thumb cedre 28 December 2013, 17:48

Cedar revolution and lebanese sovereignty needs HA disarmed, other wise they'll keep killing people that disagree with Khamenei...

Thumb cedre 28 December 2013, 20:06

Fact, the west gave lebanon to syria and couldn't get him out.
Syro-iranian agents killed him and the lebanese people got rid of syrians. So where is the fake process ?
But I agree that there might have been mutual interests to get rid of Bashar's army...

Thumb FlameCatcher 28 December 2013, 17:51

@thefact : you should change your name.

In 2009, he actually won the elections with the majority of Lebanese voting for his alliance. Buy you're right, who is he ? He doesn't have an army like Hezbollah to make his own law and impose his will on the people.

The all mighty Hezbollah has the "majority" of bullets, soldiers and weapons in the country so has "earned" their right to rule the country. Right fact ?

Thumb FlameCatcher 28 December 2013, 18:27

@Thefact : you're wrong. M14 alliance enjoyed and still enjoys the majority of Lebanese voters until proven otherwise. Jumblat changing sides does not mean that his electors did.

Regarding Hariri's army, I beg you to show it to me. Show me evidence of Hariri "financing" Salafists and palestinians. And with what money ? He's broke ! It's not because Nasrallah wants you to believe this that it's true.

And no, HA is not the only terrorist in town. I never said this. I'm just pointing that they are no different than Al-Qaeda, Takfiris, Fath el Islam and whatever new group appears every day.

Now stop making baseless allegations. Where is the proof that Hariri funds terrorism ?

Thumb FlameCatcher 28 December 2013, 18:28

PS : if Hariri was in any way "extremist", tell me why all the women presenters on Future TV don't wear a Hijab while those on Manar do :)

Thumb FlameCatcher 30 December 2013, 16:43

@The fact : Blogspot ? And a student report ? These are your sources ?

Go read all over google how your Syrian Security Services recruited Shaker Absi ("Jailed and freed him") and sent him to Nahr el Bared with his brand new "fath el islam"

Even your OTV has a documentary about how Shaker was sent by Syrian Security services to fight Siniora's gov : http://www.oroom.org/forum/showthread.php?30155-Shaker-Al-Absi-EXCLUSIVE-on-OTV-Saturday-9-00-p-m/page6

The syria you defend is the first sponsor of such terrorist groups. They "turn them", train them, arm them, fund them and let them "be"...

So shove it !

Default-user-icon Victor (Guest) 28 December 2013, 18:40

the main people who is behind the assasination in my point of view is moukhabarat of the Army whoever controls them thats another question .

Thumb -phoenix1 28 December 2013, 19:31

@thefact, if for a moment, how about we leave aside figures from this source or that source, and try to focus on one thing, at least for the benefit of the doubt, in fact where it pertains to all those who may doubt the TWO outcomes of the elections over which the M14 coalition won, squarely and fairly: Sayed Hassan whom the large majority of the M8 coalition take his word in good faith, thus my question: Since Sayed Hassan has on those two occasion conceded defeat, should we also doubt his position which we all know, Sayed Hassan will carefully count every hair on the ants head before committing himself to a position as that, why did he do it then since we know now? What he did thereafter doesn't matter anymore, but can we refuse the fact that Sayed Hassan accepted the results twice?

Default-user-icon Rogue (Guest) 29 December 2013, 02:34

You can ask for anything you like twit...this is Lebanon. Doesn't mean you will get it. Sorry to remind you, your days in Lebanon are over...you are now back at your roots in Arabia. Shattah was a moderate but you and you associates were extremists and thieves. You should be charges for robbing the state you filthy animals. You will be made accountable to God and the people no matter how much you try drive poverty in the nation.

Default-user-icon Samco141414 (Guest) 29 December 2013, 06:23

Who ever is talking about Saad Hariri, let him come back and all?
Where is kaskousi Hasan Nasralla? Hiding bl majareer.

Default-user-icon Carmon (Guest) 29 March 2014, 06:06

The government has a huge fund allocation for the grants.
This is why so many people want to work 9 to 5: They
know when they need to come in to work, they know when they are going to leave, and they know how much they're going to get
paid for it. Energetic Having the drive to reach the finish line no matter
what it takes.