جعجع يرى ان الدولة "مجتزأة": التحالف العربي سيتّجه نحو سوريا

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وصف رئيس "حزب القوات اللبنانية" سمير جعجع الدولة اللبنانية بأنها "دولة مجتزأة"، معرباً عن اعتقاده من ان التحالف العربي سيتجه نحو سوريا بعد انتهائه من اليمن.

وفي حديث الى صحيفة "اليوم السابع"، الخميس، أوضح جعجع ان الدولة اللبنانية "مجتزأة" لأن "الدولة لا تقوم فعلياً في ظل غياب القرار الاستراتيجي او الأمني أو العسكري منها".

وأشار الى أن "هذه نطقة الخلاف الرئيسية والجوهرية بين فريقي 14 آذار و 8 آذار"، موضحاً ان "فريق 14 آذار يرى هذا الوضع وضعاً شاذاً ويجب الخروج منه إلى وضع الدولة الفعلية، بينما يرى فريق 8 آذار أن هذا الوضع مثالي ويجب البقاء عليه، بل تدعيمه أكثر فأكثر".

واعتبر ان الاستحقاق الرئاسي من الممكن انجازه "في أي لحظة اذا أوقف حزب الله وحلفاؤه مقاطعة جلسات الانتخاب".

من هنا، كرر استعداده "الكامل للبحث عن اسم مرشح ثالث للرئاسة، ولكن للأسف حزب الله وفريقه ليسا على استعداد مطلقاً للبحث عن أى شيء اسمه مرشح ثالث، فلذلك لا جدوى من البحث".

واعتبر جعجع ان "ايران تسعى الى تحسين موقعها فى اللعبة الكبيرة في الشرق الأوسط من خلال مصادرة رئاسة الجمهورية فى لبنان أو عبر إيصال شخص موالٍ لها إلى سدّة الرئاسة".

يُذكر ان فريق 14 آذار يخوض المعركة الرئاسية بمرشحه جعجع، في حين يدعم رئيس "الحزب التقدمي الاشتراكي" النائب وليد جنبلاط، مرشح "اللقاء الديمقراطي" النائب هنري حلو، وسط دعم فريق 8 آذار، لرئيس "التيار الوطني الحر" النائب ميشال عون.

ودخل لبنان في الشغور الرئاسي بعد فشل النواب في انتخاب رئيس جديد ورفض الرئيس السابق ميشال سليمان تمديد ولايته والقى خطاب الوداع في 24 أيار.

اما في الشق الاقليمي والعربي، فتوقّع جعجع في حديثه الى "اليوم السابع"، ان "يتوجه التحالف العربي إلى سوريا خلال الأشهر القادمة ولكن ليس قبل الانتهاء من الأزمة اليمنية".

ولفت الى انه ومن هذا المنطلق فإن "حلفاء إيران فى المنطقة يعارضون كلياً تدخل المملكة العربية السعودية وحلفائها فى اليمن، لأن الخطوة الطبيعية الثانية هي التدخل فى سوريا".

وتستهدف الحملة العسكرية للتحالف العربي بقيادة السعودية منذ 26 آذار الحوثيين الشيعة المرتبطين بايران والقوات الموالية للرئيس السابق علي عبدالله صالح، وذلك تحت اسم "عاصفة الحزم".

وكان الامين العام لحزب الله السيد حسن نصر الله ندد في خطاب له وكذلك بحديث الى قناة "الاخبارية السورية" بـ"العدوان" على الحوثيين، مهاجماً بشدة المملكة العربية السعودية قائلا حينها ان "هزيمة كبرى" ستلحق بها في اليمن.

ويشارك "حزب الله" في القتال الدائر في سوريا منذ آذار 2011، الى جانب القوات النظامية السورية، وهو اعلن عن تشييع عدد من مقاتليه "الذين قضوا خلال قيامهم بواجبهم الجهادي".

ج.ش.

التعليقات 109
Thumb geha 11:26 ,2015 نيسان 16

liberate syria first or Lebanon first from the iranian invasion?
wait and see.

Thumb _mowaten_ 11:58 ,2015 نيسان 16

Hi geha. Do you support a Saudi-sponsored democracy for Lebanon? Please tell us how you envision it, would it be achieved through Hariri's willpower and twitter account alone, or would it require some collaboration with your israeli masters?

Thumb geha 12:10 ,2015 نيسان 16

your problem is that you know I only support Lebanon, and whatever you say or accuse me of has no meaning whatsoever because you and I know it is simply not true and your usual spread of lies :)

Thumb _mowaten_ 12:14 ,2015 نيسان 16

No, my problem is that I know you support saudia first and foremost, and it's pretty disgusting to see you pretending you are Lebanese while propagating your saudi values of intolerance hate and sectarianism.

Thumb geha 12:50 ,2015 نيسان 16

once more: maybe you want to believe your own lies to validate your hatred towards all those that are not traitors to their country like you.
but that is not my problem if you decided to follow this extremist terrorist iranian militia!
you are a traitor, and that is it :) admit it, own it and live with it: it is your choice.

Thumb _mowaten_ 14:31 ,2015 نيسان 16

the only way you could NOT be a traitor would be if you were saudi. like your idol hariri.

Thumb Mystic 11:59 ,2015 نيسان 16

I would like to see them try, they shouldn't be too optimistic on Yemen, this wahabi coalition.

Default-user-icon Phil (ضيف) 12:37 ,2015 نيسان 16

You "would like to see them try" ? You seem very confident Mr. Jaafar Zoaiter. Would you please enlighten us as to what your hazabolla will do to counter such an offensive? You guys are barely holding on to a few villages in Syria. You expect to be able to ward off a fleet of warplanes by chanting religious hymns at them? Or maybe through systemic propaganda launched by Manar TV? Your arrogance will lead to your demise. Mark my words.

Thumb Mystic 15:02 ,2015 نيسان 16

Phil, we witnessed what your beloved Israel couldn't achieve with their fleets of fighter jets and heavy armored divisions.

I doubt the GCC countries can do better. We will see when the time comes, death is not a worry it comes for us all sometime.

Saudi coalition in Yemen is not very sucessful neither.

Aslong as we can take as many as you guys with us to death as possible, then it is fine.

Thumb Mystic 13:04 ,2015 نيسان 16

You will get a warm welcome.

Thumb Mystic 12:01 ,2015 نيسان 16

Jaja, "the defender of Phoenicians" now speaks up for Arabs? The one that killed so many arabs during the old war?

Thumb _mowaten_ 12:11 ,2015 نيسان 16

As a representative of saudi wahhabia, geagea is now the voice and soul of modern and democratic arabism.

Thumb al.finique 16:55 ,2015 نيسان 16

where do you live?

Thumb -phoenix1 12:12 ,2015 نيسان 16

(1). My dear Mystic, if you look at the LF and how it fought in the wars, it harbored Lebanon's constitutional institutions in the liberated areas it controlled. Now if one looks at history, one would see that those who fought against the LF routinely destroyed, pilfered and stole from these institutions. From the very onset of the civil war, the whole plan was to boot the Christians out of Lebanon and make of it a replacement state for the Palestinians. Every single Muslim in Lebanon rallied behind Yasser Arafat, even you Shiites. At the time Gaddafi was not only your ally but also your financier as well. As recent as a few years ago, even Jombie the junkie said that he could easily fit in an Islamic republic of Lebanon, but that we Christians wouldn't. There comes a time when we need to shed out our different hypocrisies in favor of a frank dialog, as recent as only last month, I was with a good Shiite brother in Aisha Bakkar.

Thumb _mowaten_ 12:23 ,2015 نيسان 16

" it harbored Lebanon's constitutional institutions in the liberated areas it controlled"
lol phoenix what institutions exactly? the racket at the port? or the executions against walls?

Thumb _mowaten_ 12:27 ,2015 نيسان 16

"Every single Muslim in Lebanon rallied behind Yasser Arafat, even you Shiites"
Is this why palestinians massacred shiites in the south to the point that they even welcomed israel (even if for a short while)?

"at the time Gaddafi was not only your ally but also your financier as well"
is this why he made mussa sadr disappear?

"There comes a time when we need to shed out our different hypocrisies in favor of a frank dialog"
Yes, please show us the way.

Thumb Mystic 13:07 ,2015 نيسان 16

Phoenix how does it feel to see your leader, speaking up for Arabhood these days?

I thought you people were the proud Phonicians?

Thumb freedomarch 13:53 ,2015 نيسان 16

PHONIX, I understand where you are coming from, but no The overwhelming majority of Sunnis that I know did like PLO, and where happy to live side by side with their Christian neighbors. THAT IS a Fact.

Thumb freedomarch 13:55 ,2015 نيسان 16

* did NOT LIKE PLO and where happy to live side by side with their Christian neighbors.

Thumb -phoenix1 14:14 ,2015 نيسان 16

Freedom, I accept your views and I stand corrected on this part of things. Thank you again.

Thumb -phoenix1 12:13 ,2015 نيسان 16

(2). Mystic. There we met a pro-Amal Shiite who in his discussion was saying that "Yalla, erbet, ariban al Istiz Nabeh will be President of the republic, wou Allah yi rayye7na minal Mawarinah" He didn't know I was Christian, till I told him so. Thus he turned in the color of Istiz nabeh's flag, GREEN. Yalla ya Mystic, bala toufniss, we all know what you people want, it resides there at the back of your heads, the rest is sheer diplomacy hoping to keep aboard some Freemasons traitors like Aoun to do your dirty job, this time around a man called Geagea is once again waiting for you, for him the Claoun and for those who wish to sell this country. Bass ya akh, bala toufniss wou tibyid tanajerr.

Thumb -phoenix1 13:02 ,2015 نيسان 16

(1). Mowaten, Musa Sadr was killed becase he received very large payments and under his understand with Muamar Gaddafi he did not deliver on several fronts, that is why when he was solicited to Tripoli, Gaddafi ended up killing him and burying him under a highway. Then the LF harbored the Central Bank walaw nsit? The army head command, EDL, and other insitutions as well. Walaw, under whom was the airport ya akh? And sure why not, we had the port wou alf sa7teyn, otherwise where from would we create financial resources to defend ourselves, you want the cake and the topping as usual and as you are doing these days in Lebanon?

Thumb -phoenix1 13:04 ,2015 نيسان 16

(2). Mowaten. Wlak even the bus service between Beirut and Jbeil you tried to intimidate us, till the LF got in last week to remind Hezbollah that the ABADAYET mentality does not work nowadays, so go check now on the ground how things have changed for the better. Hezbollah has been crippling this country for years now, walaw ya Mowaten, are you that blind to the point you cannot see your side's excesses, my being still mild with my views here? Please ya akh, I requested that we do away with our hypocrisies all of us and be frank, at least we could shake off our evils of the past.

Thumb -phoenix1 13:18 ,2015 نيسان 16

(3). Mowaten, look, here's a small story, maybe small, but big, very big because people are now changing. About a month ago, in a well known touristic area of Lebanon, (Not in Beirut), a restaurant as usual hired a company to take care of its valet parking, mostly now run and controlled by the Shiites. A client came to take his car only to find it badly dented by the valet workers. A heated dispute ensued where the valet company refused to take responsibility and was even threatening the car owner and his family, the valet guys called some Hezbollah thugs who came within 15 minutes, they were about 8 in all. When matters heated up between the car owner, restaurant owner and the valets and their thugs, guess who also came to the scene, that's right, you guessed, LF guys. They were armed to the teeth and within minutes the dispute was solved whereby the valet company will repair the damaged car.

Thumb the_roar 13:19 ,2015 نيسان 16

Where was the brave LF in 2008? Jumblat & his men were the only ones who stood their ground..LF were the first to pump it up & the first to leg it when HA looked at them.

move along old timer...your long posts don't help your lies.

Thumb -phoenix1 13:19 ,2015 نيسان 16

(4). Mowaten. Maybe a small incident yet big on meaning because now people are reacting and from now on Hezbollah is gradually losing the people's goodwill and sympathy as well, and with time may well face a formidable popular level of hatred against it. There are times when just one brick can bring down a whole wall. Please pay attention and don't believe that nothing has changed in 10 years.

Thumb the_roar 13:31 ,2015 نيسان 16

Mowaten & Mystic...why do you give this irrelevant old toothless relic
the time ?

He gloats like a winner when he has failed in every prediction he has offered.

He held his mustache that Assad & HA will be finished within weeks 4 years ago.

Today he continues as if he was right all along.

No shame ...

Thumb -phoenix1 13:46 ,2015 نيسان 16

(1). Ya Roar ya Satan move away from me, for you are nothing but a very sick person filled with hatred. Now you are calling for your masters to bail you out. Nothing with you is right, you certainly are truly mentally disturbed and beyond repair. You are so filled with evil that you don't know when to stop. Your following your old evil Freemason Aoun the claoun will definitely deprive you of all mental ability and it shows, what have you got more than attack and insult people? You are so evil that hatred is the only language you can speak, as evil as your Aoun, as much a liar as him, you tell me, which person in his right mind will want to engage you in a sane debate, whom?

Thumb the_roar 13:50 ,2015 نيسان 16

You held your mustache old man & swore that Assad & HA will be finished within weeks..

4 years later you bore the forum with one long rant after the other as if have a clue.

admit you're a failed old man who loves to waffle with one long post after the other.

move along old timer, you were weighed & measured & have come up very light & short for this caper.

Thumb _mowaten_ 13:56 ,2015 نيسان 16

You and your anecdotal, improbable, unverifiable stories phoenix. First your "shiite pro-amal" "friend" and his midnight "confessions", now your valets and the LFs rambos (though i thought only hezbollah was armed, how come?)... What do you want me to answer to those? Anybody can make up their own stories or repeat stories they hear in a cafe in between two gossips, but where would that lead us?

If you don't mind, as far as i'm concerned, I'd rather just stick to facts. Thanks.

Thumb -phoenix1 13:58 ,2015 نيسان 16

(2). Ya Roar ya Satan. Every time you enter this forum it's for one purpose only, to attack, debase and insult, but rest assured, I have time for you now now. So what do you want to do, lie to us again, people know you so well and the best you will get from most is a good giggle, the kind given to fools in truth. You want to label, your your demonic mind to create fake images of people you the, keep trying, you'll only make of yourself another fool again, always digging your hole deeper and deeper, I told you, you are a very cheap person.

Thumb -phoenix1 14:02 ,2015 نيسان 16

(3). Roar Satan. I exposed you some weeks ago, what more do you want to tell us, that now you live in New Zealand or Jakarta? Lies, lies and lies, nothing more, nothing less. You want to keep calling me by names, sure, go ahead, but I will remain here to ridicule you in my own ways. You see, once a person is possessed, it's easy to recognize., only an evil mind and heart like you, with a seriously limited brain up there can behave like you do, of course, after all, this is what your old man Aoun does, prey on the weak, mou? You hate Naharnet as much as you hate yourself ya devil, next time when you chat with a Red Pho.... in the Orange Room, don't make it so obvious, you're so childish, 3an jad. Naharnet is here for all of us to debate, no matter what you will try, it will not work.

Thumb _mowaten_ 14:03 ,2015 نيسان 16

And about your story of how and why gaddafi killed sadr, it's amazing how confidently you spell it out, especially when nobody knows what really happened and why. There are many theories and versions, but none is even close to what you claim. Do you mind telling us where you got it from?

Thumb the_roar 14:03 ,2015 نيسان 16

wasting your time, Mowaten.

Fiction is his caper....oh & long boring rants.

He has been measured & weighed btw..he was found to be very short & light on debating.....how can one who held their mustache & put his honor on the line with a claim that Assad & HA will be finished within weeks still post? most would hide from the shame.

yet you want facts ? lol GL

Thumb -phoenix1 14:06 ,2015 نيسان 16

(4) Roar the Satanic evil. Then you keep calling me old man, reliant old toothless fixture, you got me walking sticks, dentures, and what more ya habileh ya Shaytan? But for an old relic as you called me, it does seem pretty obvious that I can get you seriously cranked up and busy till the wee hours of Beirut time, now drop that Aussie thing and spare us more lies from you will you. You see Roar, you are not sane because only a mad man, possessed by the devil does the things you do, no one is so possessed and consumed by hatred and a dirty tongue like you, you are quite something. I may be older than you, certainly, but a lot lot younger than your general or your Sayed, yet I wonders what they'd be in your evil books, monolithic mummies?

Thumb the_roar 14:11 ,2015 نيسان 16

Shhhh old man...you're irrelevant.

time you understood you have been weighed & measured.

Now put your dentures & hearing aids back in before you have a dizzy spell.

Thumb -phoenix1 14:12 ,2015 نيسان 16

(5). Roar evil Satan. Fortunately for many people, they've seen the evil of your senile old man Aoun, the claoun, the Freemason who makes meetings on Tuesday at 7 PM, your dirty Aoun the anti-Christ. They've left him, except for some very sick and evil people like you, whom by excellence can't but hate and hate and hate, same as your old papa Aoun Al Capaoun. If he doesn't die soon, he will then need a psychiatric institution where he will have to spend the rest of his days and this is where you ya Evil Satanic Roar come in, having shown to us all what you really are, you need to book a room from now to keep your old senile some company, but you ya Roar you need first some exorcism, you're so full of it, the more in you, the cheaper you get. Yalla, so now what next will you imagine, Satan is always full of resources for his followers, his home are sick people like you. Yalla, get yourself fired up, let's hear your new stories evil Roar.

Thumb Mystic 14:16 ,2015 نيسان 16

Phoenix you surprise me, I thought you were a calmer person. Now you call fellow posters demons and satans work.

Not very sane old friend.

Thumb the_roar 14:19 ,2015 نيسان 16

Only the devil knows whats evil....I'll leave Phoenix in charge of this topic, since his using it with such authority.

Default-user-icon + oua nabka + (ضيف) 12:11 ,2015 نيسان 16

always depending of some sort on the outside ,always
the only solution is, all Lebanese to sit without outside intervention
(proportionality in parliament elections and popular vote for presidency )
god bless democracy

Thumb -phoenix1 12:56 ,2015 نيسان 16

OUA, we have a constitution in place, by and large even though it isn't perfect, still it does a good job. The main thing is yes as you said, no outside meddling and let us vote for a new president using the available means to us, that simple. let us not forget that we have a parliament that extended its mandate without popular vote, thus they still have a job, let them do it, period.

Thumb the_roar 13:20 ,2015 نيسان 16

Constitution that allows one extension after the other.

move along old timer.

Thumb _mowaten_ 14:28 ,2015 نيسان 16

does the constitution say that sauds have to chose our president?

Thumb the_roar 14:33 ,2015 نيسان 16

Who said the Syrians did the right thing?

Constitution has been rigged by the Syrians & Lebanese after they left.

Suleiman is unable to become Pres by the Constitution & I can name you many many more...not once have you complained about it.

Now back the people vote or shut it.

Thumb the_roar 14:37 ,2015 نيسان 16

Lahoud indeed was a Brill Pres...But that does not mean he should of received an extension.

Your point is mooted & self refuting.

People vote or shut it.

Thumb _mowaten_ 15:29 ,2015 نيسان 16

Indeed slash, he was a terrible, terrible president! For the Saouds that is, because he wouldn't let them buy him.

Thumb -phoenix1 15:36 ,2015 نيسان 16

Evil Liar Roar, you said and I quote, "Lahoud indeed was a Brill Pres...But that does not mean he should of received an extension.

Your point is mooted & self refuting.

People vote or shut it.". Unquote. If Lahoud was brilliant, then Aoun the claoun must be God's best gift to mankind, and you the evil liar will be the keeper of his gates. As usual in your angry hateful self, you couldn't but end up another sick post with the words, "People vote or shut up". It does sum your avatar, "Fait toi belle, et tais toi". be my guest, give that gapping evil mouth of yours a rest.

Thumb -phoenix1 15:50 ,2015 نيسان 16

Ah ya Mowaten, ya Mowaten, you said, "Indeed slash, he was a terrible, terrible president! For the Saouds that is, because he wouldn't let them buy him.", unquote. Emile Lahoud was the cheapest so-called brezident we ever had, anyone could buy him, even Roar the evil one, with just one Lacoste T shirt, and Lahoud will sell his mom. But all the same, if such are your heroes, alf mabrook 3a leyk ya akh.

Thumb _mowaten_ 17:17 ,2015 نيسان 16

Ah ya phoenix, ya phoenix, if they could have bought him they would have loved him. All that hate until today is pure frustration :)

Thumb -phoenix1 14:22 ,2015 نيسان 16

Mowaten, if you stuck to facts, then you will make for yourself an easier life. Between your Al Mannar saturation and your hardened views, it looks set that no one could convince you of anything, but why am I not surprised anyway? Feel free to believe what you like, life goes on, and people who have my kind of opinion will remain around to contrarize yours, nothing so complicated, right?

Thumb the_roar 14:35 ,2015 نيسان 16

Facts are you told this forum ...in fact you bored the forum with post after post how you will hold your mustache that Assad & HA will be finished within weeks.

4 years later you're still boring us with these facts.

Thumb -phoenix1 14:38 ,2015 نيسان 16

Actually am calling Roar a demonic, satanic person. I will repeat it for as long as I need to. Then be reassured, I am calm and now I have time for your friend who calls himself the Roar, the guy who keeps lying to everyone that he comes from Aussie. Yes ya Mystic, this hateful person is evil, and he needs both medical and religious attention, urgently.

Thumb the_roar 14:41 ,2015 نيسان 16

Keep calling ...you're an authority on the matter.

cased closed...Phoenix the old relic is the supreme authority on the dark side...he may use it as long as he breathes.

don't cark it too son old timer.

Thumb -phoenix1 14:46 ,2015 نيسان 16

You're still lying ya Roar, Lahoud, Suleiman, what do you know? You're supposed to be down under and preparing your bed for an early morning job, that is if you have a job and if you live there. tell us about Australian affairs, lol, none but distorted Lebanese affairs and from your Orange Room. When will you quit lying, when? But first, we need to have you exorcised, you're so evil, with all this hatred, with that sick brain of yours always creating images of people, always lying, who cares where you live, go live in Borneo, who cares ya satan?

Thumb the_roar 14:51 ,2015 نيسان 16

You're not someone I care to share my personal life with.

I share bread with those on the light side.

Thumb -phoenix1 14:42 ,2015 نيسان 16

You ya evil satanic lying Roar, I am now ready for you. You continue with your lies, and I'll respond to you in kind. When you leave your insults on fellow posters, when you can debate like a civilized person, when you can abstain from your repeated lies and fabrication, when you can get out of your cheap ways, then I will give you the benefit of the doubt and treat you as a human being, but right now with all this blind hatred you're showing, I can only describe you as the devil reincarnated in your own body and soul, only people like you ca be a dwelling home for Al Shaytan, you're so full of it. become civilized, and I believe everyone will respond to you in civilized ways, right now you're just a very cheap thing here, and very evil too!!

Thumb the_roar 14:50 ,2015 نيسان 16

No no NO.. I wouldn't dream of asking the supreme authority on dark matters to stop.

May you keep your authority of the dark side till your last breathe.

I am not afraid of you dark man ...For Lord Jesus will destroy any workers of the dark side & keep his flock safe.

I wonder through life in the flock of my Lord Jesus & all your evil spells have no effect on me.

Keep posting your authoritative dark side...

Thumb -phoenix1 15:07 ,2015 نيسان 16

Roar the lair, the evil, say what you wish, but today I am here for you, tit for tat, till you become a human being again. Your time to insult people is over. Also make an effort to stop lying, but as I said, whatever you say, for as long as its rubbish, I respond, I've all day for you ya Kezzeb. Yalla, get started.

Thumb -phoenix1 15:40 ,2015 نيسان 16

Ya evil devil Shaytan Roar, fact is that I am not boring this forum, fact is that I am giving you ya liar Roar a hard time, and that you are doing best as you could to keep me quiet. Not today ya evil liar Roar. If you don't watch that cat tail of yours, I'll find you also at the Orange Room, just to prove a point to you.

Thumb -phoenix1 15:39 ,2015 نيسان 16

Roar the evil liar, another post of yours, and I quote, "Who said the Syrians did the right thing?

Constitution has been rigged by the Syrians & Lebanese after they left.

Suleiman is unable to become Pres by the Constitution & I can name you many many more...not once have you complained about it.

Now back the people vote or shut it.", unquote. As always, insults and insults. Fais toi belle et tais toi would be best for you. Your motormouth needs to rest.

Thumb al.finique 16:57 ,2015 نيسان 16

you are really upsetting me phoenix1...
why do your lower yourself and speak with this spiteful ignorant?!!!!!!!

Missing humble 12:33 ,2015 نيسان 16

Those who advocates wars and violence are chosing darkness instead of the Light of God.

Thumb al.finique 16:58 ,2015 نيسان 16

come visit us in Lebanon

Thumb the_roar 13:15 ,2015 نيسان 16

Can you name one war this convicted criminal won?

Sneaking into Christians homes & killing women & children doesn't count.

Now tell us about your war hero...name the victories for the forum.

I bet Jumblat is waiting to hear your answers...as we do.

Thumb the_roar 13:22 ,2015 نيسان 16

I don't open links ...just tell us of these victories.

or you're tongue tied now?

Thumb the_roar 13:32 ,2015 نيسان 16

Every one had weapons..sit proves nothing.

name the victories for us...its not a hard task.

tell us how he went with Jumblat for example.

Thumb -phoenix1 14:25 ,2015 نيسان 16

Roar evil satanic liar. Geagea was convicted and paid with 11 years. Your old man the Claoun Al Capaoun ran away like speedy Gonzales, so typical, but now both you ya chronic liar and your papa Aoun, you must go to Deyr El Salib and spend your days there. You shouldn't be with people, you're too evil, too hateful, too spiteful, and finally too cheap. Enta we7ed KEZZEB, mounefe2 wou bala 2imeh, rkhiss.

Thumb the_roar 14:28 ,2015 نيسان 16

You're hoping he is sent there so he will be with you.

move along old timer...you have been weighed & measured & failed miserably.

Thumb -phoenix1 14:49 ,2015 نيسان 16

Ya evil satanic Roar, I can name you 100o battles that your Freemason Aoun the claoun has lost. I can also name you the 1000,000 lies he paints daily just like you do in fact. I can cite for you the million fake promises and counter fake promises he keeps bringing up, just like you ya evil sick man Roar. When a man is beset by Satan, when a man is an anti-Christ, when a man is hellbent on removing the Christians from lebanon, then only one name comes to mind, Aoun the claoun. You ya Roar,you are too cheap, cheaop and very evil, what else?

Thumb the_roar 14:53 ,2015 نيسان 16

The Supreme authority on the dark side continues.

May you be rescued from the dark side before you croak old timer.

But alas its looking grimm....sorry old timer, some can't be saved.

Thumb -phoenix1 15:09 ,2015 نيسان 16

Roar the evil liar, in your response to Lebjack you said and I quote, "I don't open links ...just tell us of these victories.

or you're tongue tied now?". Unquote. You do open links ya liar, but what you cannot control is your mouth, do you keep it open and gaping at all times? Evil liar you Roar. Stop lying.

Thumb -phoenix1 15:10 ,2015 نيسان 16

Only last week you killed yourself with links about this famous Good Friday stuff on me, you see ya Kezzeb, caught you with your pants down, you're lying again. Evil thing you Roar. Yalla ya habileh, lie again about links. Satan lives in you ya habileh and this is one more example of how you can lie, just like Aboul Mish.

Thumb the_roar 13:26 ,2015 نيسان 16

Here is Geagea cheerleading for his pay masters KSA.

watch him shake them POM POMS...

Thumb -phoenix1 14:19 ,2015 نيسان 16

Just like you you sick devil Roar, why do you stay around so much if you live in Australia. haven't I shown everyone that you are an Orange paid troll? You will go nowhere above your cheap evil ways and the further you go from your monthly paycheck, the more mad and aggressive you get, plus of course the LIES, lies are oxygen to you, just like your old Aoun the claoun..

Thumb the_roar 14:27 ,2015 نيسان 16

Only thing you have shown is how you have no shame.

you lied & held your mustache but keep returning with one long post after the other as if nothing happened.

You remind me of the guy who when someone spits on his mustache he replies oh it must be raining & continues as if nothing happened.

Shameful person.

Thumb the_roar 13:47 ,2015 نيسان 16

As I thought You were unable to name one victory.

Keep the lies & distortion coming people..most entertaining.

Thumb the_roar 13:54 ,2015 نيسان 16

They were not victories...they were safe areas held by the Christians before Geagea was in charge

78-81 under Gemayel ...89 90 geagea helped the Syrians.

once again name a victory your idol won?

you should ask Humblat how he went..maybe he could refresh your memory

Thumb -phoenix1 14:54 ,2015 نيسان 16

Lies and distortion ya evil sick man Roar? Who are you to say? What is indisputable facts are to you fake, just as your OTV and Orange Room endeavor to make people believe. Freemasonry's anti-Christ is being defeated along with his sick followers, talk of battles, you guys are losing every single election, ma heyk, deny.

Thumb the_roar 14:57 ,2015 نيسان 16

The supreme authority on the dark side continues.

May you see the light before you croak old timer.

But alas some are too far gone ....some cannot be saved.

Thumb ex-fpm 16:14 ,2015 نيسان 16

all these intricate lebanese civil war details that were not even written in history books were told to the_roar by his great grandfather who was Lebanese. Roar is australian and does not speak arabic. His father too is australian and does not speak arabic:)

Thumb the_roar 13:58 ,2015 نيسان 16

Why are you so upset? unable to answer a question causes you to burst into tears?

if so, then don't go around making false claims to begin with & you will not be asked a question..

Default-user-icon + oua nabka + (ضيف) 14:04 ,2015 نيسان 16

for the record
all the battles against the Syrian occupier was done when Samir was not the head of the Lebanese forces (he even then retreated and withdrew his men from zahle battle, and he done insihab takte from jabal )as a leader under other head of LF
but when he became head of Lebanese forces not even 1 battle with the Syrians
god bless democracy

Thumb the_roar 14:12 ,2015 نيسان 16

why do you refuse to answer the most simple of questions?

not interested in utube links......how well did your hero go when he decided to take on Jumblat?

Thumb -phoenix1 14:15 ,2015 نيسان 16

OUA, please give us real facts, not some fake ones, if you please.

Thumb the_roar 14:06 ,2015 نيسان 16

Lebjack...just answer me this.,...how well did your hero go when he decided to take on Jumblat?

Thumb the_roar 14:16 ,2015 نيسان 16

They showed me one thing..unlike the cowards of the LF, mustahabal.

they stuck to their word,,whilst the other 2 wet themselves.

Jumblat understood he was with the wrong people after that.

But no smashing was done....but if it helps you sleep better than you believe it.

Thumb the_roar 14:17 ,2015 نيسان 16

They talk about the day Geagea tried to win a battle & took on Jumblat?

if so I will open the link....yes or no?

Thumb the_roar 14:25 ,2015 نيسان 16

umm I still see you are reserved in the matter at hand.

HOW DID GEAGEA GO WHEN TRIED TO BE A HERO IN THE CHOUF?

very simplistic question.

Thumb -phoenix1 15:26 ,2015 نيسان 16

Just stop lying you started by saying you don't do links, when in fact you're all about links, even fake ones. Try to stop lying, put a brave face on you and move along, you're so easy to catch ya liar Roar.

Thumb -phoenix1 15:27 ,2015 نيسان 16

Just stop lying you started by saying you don't do links, when in fact you're all about links, even fake ones. Try to stop lying, put a brave face on you and move along, you're so easy to catch ya liar.

Thumb -phoenix1 14:17 ,2015 نيسان 16

Lebjack this Roar is the devil himself, a follower of the Freemason anti-Christ Aoun the claoun. Don't even bother about the brain, he has none, just a truly evil chronic liar whose only desire is to get us posters banned. But it isn't working and because of that he goes even more crazy, but yeah, a rat would be a compliment to him.

Thumb the_roar 14:22 ,2015 نيسان 16

You're the expert on the matter old man... who else could follow a convicted murderer?

move along old man...& take your dark works elsewhere.

Thumb Mystic 14:38 ,2015 نيسان 16

Phoenix, your Saudi jack buddy wrote sometime ago, that Nusra does a good job and should take care of Hezbollah.

Same Nusra that beheaded LAF soldiers, your alligiances looks more and more suspicious by the day. Then again, Lebanese forces what else to expect from childkillers.

Thumb the_roar 14:45 ,2015 نيسان 16

Child killers LF love IS-nusra to defeat their own LAF-HA.

what more needs to be said.

These LF lovers have been cheering the Syrian war from day one..Phoenix even said..lets all sit back & watch the show.

Thumb -phoenix1 15:24 ,2015 نيسان 16

Mystic, in total contrast to you, I am fully capable of disagreeing with any person from my own ranks and make my mind known, and I believe that you more than all has seen such manifestations, right? Good, now that we've established this fact we may at least concur that Geagea is the opponent of both Hezbollah, the FPM and your sponsors, be they Iranian or Syrian. I do urge you take note of that.

Thumb Mystic 20:47 ,2015 نيسان 16

Okay phoenix, I truly believe the Lebanese Forces guys would convert to Wahbbism, as soon as the takfiris took over Lebanon. Geagea could be your Emir then.

Perfect picture.

Thumb the_roar 14:39 ,2015 نيسان 16

So you should...nothing wrong with good old Jumblat.

His minister is doing an outstanding job as we speak.

Flip flopper but I like him...Just the hiding he gave Geagea is enough to earn ones respect.

Thumb -phoenix1 15:27 ,2015 نيسان 16

Wow, if there's anyone known to flip flop is you ya evil Roar, flip flop is your second name, just after the LIAR name of yours.

Thumb lebanon_first 15:08 ,2015 نيسان 16

It is true that the only people who stood up to lebanon in the civil war were the LF and the Kataeb. The LF became less disciplined when Bachir was murdered and lost their initial sparkle until they were disarmed.

ALso to be fair HA helped liberate the south in 2000. But when their services were no longer needed, they became a bunch of thugs profiting from the fact that their partners were unarmed to impose their vision and establishing their own statelet in lebanon.

Thumb -phoenix1 15:32 ,2015 نيسان 16

Lebjack, in the Souf, Geagea's forces were defeated not because of Jumblat alone. The Israelis had Druze fighters of the IDF there who acted against Geagea after the abrogation of the May 17th accord by Amin Gemayel. Then Geagea who was still capable of holding out for a while asked for reenforcements from then president Amin Gemayel from the Lebanese Army. Gemayel promised Geagea 6000 soldiers and that they will be sent prompt. Amin who hated Geagea and who also wanted him dead did not send the troops hoping that Geagea and his troops will die in the Shouf. I have LF friends who died in Kfar Matta. But the Roar, the evil lair will do anything to paint a fake image of the LF, especially Geagea.

Thumb -phoenix1 15:54 ,2015 نيسان 16

Thank you Lebjack, glad that you saw the lair with his pants down. Today I am all for him, till dawn breaks, Aussie time, lol. FYI, in the Shouf, there are 9 deep wells, were Walid Jumblatt has buried hundreds of Christian women and children then poured concrete over them. I am one who will continue to pursue this matter till these well are reopened. yet I have to see one evil sod like this monumental liar Roar who will call Jumblat a killer. God is here to see us prevail with the truth. These yellows believed that no one could respond to their lies, it's game over for them.

Thumb -phoenix1 16:12 ,2015 نيسان 16

(1). People seem to forget too quickly, especially good folks. Today I am talking of evil and its wars on Lebanon, the land of 18 confessions. Satan is powerful and he will use many people for his ends. he choses them carefully too, they can be clerics who will be called Al Sayed, he will use wannabe generals and he will obfuscate the brains of weak and unsuspecting people, in many cases where they no longer have the will to free themselves from his bondage. I will recall some decades again, when the partisans of a certain wannabe general, who is in truth a caporal, when these partisans, Christians too, went to Bkerke and broke the gates of that holy institution, pulled the beard of His Eminence the Patriarch, tore down all his pictures and promptly replaced them with the Caporal's, chanting "this is our patriarch". I will recall these same people, when they took His Eminence, despite all his pleas for reason and unceremoniously tossed him from one shoulder to the other.

Thumb -phoenix1 16:13 ,2015 نيسان 16

(2). I will recall the Caporal's wars and the Al Sayed's wars, confirming to us that wherever Satan the devil goes, destruction, death and desolation always follow. He walks, his servants follow. Some of them meet on Monday evenings at 7Pm, if it's English rite, Tuesdays at 7PM if it's Scottish rite, and the best part for them is to walk on the 17th degree on the crucified. Let us see who and why they want us Christians out: Israel, because we are for them the educated and free thinking world, too smart for them to outsmart us. Burn our crosses and literally we do nothing, life goes as usual. They and their Western sponsors need people like in Islam, draw one cartoon and their whole world bursts in flames. The Arab and Islamic world: They want us out because of that fanatical belief that only a Muslim shall rule them. Now I know many will hate this post, but let one be honest and deny.

Missing gcb1 17:33 ,2015 نيسان 16

@phoenix1

As somebody who comes from a Maronite Christian family, I find this post delusional and amounts to nothing more than fear mongering. Christians like you may have been popular in the late 1970s, but we are now in the age of social media and openness, an age where closed-mindedness - as displayed by you, as displayed by ISIS - is condemned.

"We" are not born more educated, more free thinking. Societal, economic and political institutions determine that. There was a time where the Islamic world was a centre of knowledge for medicine and mathematics - while Christian Europe was caught up in monarch battles and dogmatic societies. Perhaps that should teach you a lesson.

Thumb bronco 19:20 ,2015 نيسان 16

@gcb1,, i have to agree with phoenix,and he is not talking about the Christians in Europe, it is simply about the Christians in Middle east which is a whole different scenario

Thumb -phoenix1 11:15 ,2015 نيسان 17

gcb1, thank you for your views, I was about to reply to you but saw that Bronco already summed it up for me, but again in spite of my disagreement with part of your views, I thank you for your insight. bronco, also thank you.

Thumb nickjames 21:45 ,2015 نيسان 16

Such a disgrace that people like Roar who support traitors can even call themselves Lebanese... Aoun is a traitor to his loyalist fighters, his supporters, his family, and his own conscience.

Just remember it was Aoun who said ''I am ready to die on the battlefield of honor rather than surrender. Be sure I shall die fighting,'' General Aoun told the cheering crowds who formed a human shield around his palace. Then he fled, leaving his soldiers to be executed and his family to be raped by Syrian soldiers. He fled with millions from the treasury and lived the high life in France.

And remember when he once called Hezbollah terrorists? What happened after that who the hell knows. Aoun belongs in Deir el-Salib and should rot there.

Thumb nickjames 00:46 ,2015 نيسان 17

I don't think you can say LF followers only follow Bashir's principles. If the LF followers followed Bashir's principles, Geagea would not be their leader. Geagea (along with everyone else) should have been imprisoned for a long time and banned from politics. Only because no one went to prison (except Geagea), that's why I don't object to him being the leader of the LF.

However, I don't think Geagea's stances follows Bashir's. If Geagea were like Bashir at all, he would confront Hezbollah with force. It's the same situation as the 1970s: a group of people are forming a state within a state. You're gonna say but he's following Ta'ef bla bla. That's bull Ta'ef is no longer applicable to Lebanon's situation. Hezbollah are taking over the country little by little, and Geagea is just sitting there.

Thumb nickjames 00:47 ,2015 نيسان 17

He cannot compromise the interests of Lebanon when he has a quarter of the Christian support. The interests "of Lebanon" do not exist, because KSA and Iran are influencing the Lebanese.